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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters they exist Among Us and

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sometimes they win even the devil was an

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angel once the world has its own rules

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and these rules are not human

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some of us seek answers to the origin

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and existence of Cryptids and The

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join us as we venture beyond the known

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thank you

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and welcome to another episode of

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explore the strange and The Unexplained

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going to be a very special show

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uh

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this is actually

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part of an investigation that we've been

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involved with I guess we were I was

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first contacted back in

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February of this year

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I'm going to present Carrie and Greg who

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are a married couple living in Summit

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County Ohio uh they've been dealing with

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this 12-year Saga namely there have been

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monsters in their yard cryptic canines

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are a part of their everyday life

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so uh

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we're going to look at the evolution of

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their ordeal and what they've

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experienced and what they've possibly

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learned from it you know Carrie and her

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husband Greg moved to Summit County Ohio

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in 2003.

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Greg is an executive chef and Kerry is a

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school nutrition specialist they have

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three children and a ten-year-old

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granddaughter

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they are Avid outdoor enthusiasts and

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spending as much time as possible

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camping scuba diving and Hiking with

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their two dogs Liberty and Ripley their

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experiences with the canines

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cryptokanins began in 2010.

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uh Bernadette maganda was also going to

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be joining us as my co-host tonight uh

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she's an investigator researcher fans of

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monsters 14 Research and she will be

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premiering her own show here uh which

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will titled A paranormal life and that

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will be presented here on fans and

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monsters radio

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so Carrie and Greg thank you for joining

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oh where's that coming from Vincent

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Carrie do you have your

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yeah I can hear that

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are you are you watching the show on

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something

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no you don't have to show on it turn

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your sound down uh on on the other uh on

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yeah you're you're you're hold on a

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their mic is off now hold on just hang

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on a second we'll try to straighten this

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you've got to unmute your guys's mic

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yeah I'm like

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okay there you are you've got it

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we're hearing that feedback of me

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talking and you talking okay where's

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you don't have it on in any uh radio or

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any speaker

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is that good

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yeah I know it's still there this is

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what I'm going to have you guys do I'm

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gonna have you guys back out of the

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studio link that we sent you to come in

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I'm going to have you re-enter the

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studio so just leave like leave the

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already ah well this is part of radio

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that we always experience occasionally

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but why

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how's that

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I think it is

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okay there you go all right

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yeah let's Show Business folks

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sorry about that

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problem thank you so much these things

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happen

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um yeah I mean I know this is the first

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time you've done this so I I understand

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it completely

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let's start from the beginning

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uh when did you first have an encounter

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when did you first find out something

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was going on

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so we we like you said we moved into the

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house in 2003 it was pretty quiet

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um normal neighborhood

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um rural community

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and it was around 2010

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um that we first started noticing com

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some really strange things

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um the first thing I remember is my son

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who was living us with us at the time he

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was um going to college

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he mentioned that he was hearing

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something in the tree line around us

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and he kept he he slept upstairs and a

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lot of times since he was going to

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college he would be up you know pretty

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um until the early morning sometimes

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studying and he kept saying that he felt

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like something was watching him

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um he felt like something was on the

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roof at night although he couldn't see

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anything he could hear something on the

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roof

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so he started making those comments and

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around the same time I started noticing

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um you know we live in a rural community

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so we're going to have dogs and cats

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missing every once in a while and people

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put up posters on you know pretty much

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everywhere

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um telephone poles and everything but

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that summer and into that fall there

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were dozens of them I mean I'm talking

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you could not see a telephone pole that

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wasn't plastered with lost cats and lost

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dogs really right yeah and and that kind

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of got me my attention

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but I was um pulling down the just just

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down the road from where we live and I

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was I noticed there was a telephone pole

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and had a big poster and it was a

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picture of a bulldog an English bulldog

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and that kind of got me because my dad

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raised English Bulldogs when we were

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growing up and English Bulldogs do not

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have the stamina to actually and they

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generally don't run away

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so when I saw that I started thinking

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well maybe there's a predator in the

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area you know maybe we've got coyotes

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um so we have animals of our own so I

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decided that I was gonna you know just

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kind of keep an eye on them and see you

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know what was going on

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so you didn't really notice anything at

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that time did you

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no but we had had we had had a fox

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resident Fox take out our chicken coop

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um so we had the usual Critters we had

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chickens they they well what do the

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skunks kind of just kind of eat their

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heads that kind of groaty stuff but so

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yeah just your natural

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raccoons I mean we'd have to trap them

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and release and but nothing that that we

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would think was you know out of the

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ordinary right so then one morning that

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really sticks out to the first encounter

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that I had

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was um and I didn't say anything at the

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time because I really wasn't sure what

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it was I was getting ready for work and

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it was about 5 15 in the morning it was

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still dark out and I heard this just

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weird sound and at first I was it

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sounded like a goose sounded like a

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goose was like making all kinds of Noise

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We don't raise geese so I was like what

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is that so I went to the kitchen and

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opened the window and all of a sudden

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the sound changed and it sounded like a

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dog it was kind of like a hurt it was

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definitely the sound of a hurt animal

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so my mind believe it or not went right

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to that bulldog that I had seen just a

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couple days earlier and I thought well

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maybe it's that Bulldog maybe I can help

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these people find their dog so

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um our dogs we had two dogs at the time

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um fairly large dogs they were already

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outside so I went outside and I started

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going up towards the back of our

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property where we have a nice tree line

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and we have a lot of the

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um

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bamboo the wild bamboo that grows up

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there

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um I I did have a flashlight on me and

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as I was going up the tree line I kind

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of looked back to see where the dogs

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were and they weren't following me and I

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guess that should have been my first my

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my first warning but I I got up to where

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the tree line was and I was like a dummy

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I'm like here puppy puppy here puppy

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puppy and I was just about getting ready

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to walk into the tree line when all of a

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sudden this this growl and when I say

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growl it's like what I've never heard a

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growl like that since then but this

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thing whatever it was it was very large

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um it lunged out of the brush and I I

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could hear it coming towards me and I

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didn't even I stopped for a second in

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just almost like panic

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and as it's coming towards me all of a

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sudden I realized that well I've got a

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flashlight and then I was like nope I

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gotta get out of here so I literally

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turned around and ran like the 20 yards

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or so

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um to the to our front door and the dogs

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were looking at something behind me as I

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was running and I I made it to the to

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the house I don't know how I made it to

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the house because I'm pretty sure

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whatever that thing was it was large

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enough it could have run me down because

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I'm not very fast

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and I literally sat down on the floor

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underneath

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um where our kitchen is

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um because I couldn't move I was so

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scared of whatever that was the feeling

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that I had was that it was something

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that was not natural it wasn't like a

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coyote it wasn't like a wolf it wasn't

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like a dog it wasn't a bear

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um it was something that basically my

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mind couldn't wrap itself around and I

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sat there for about two hours I would

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not leave until it was all all light

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outside I did

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I did stand up and I was kind of looking

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around just to kind of see if there was

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anything out there but nothing came

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crashing through the window or the door

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or anything and I didn't hear anything

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else until like almost a week and a half

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later when my son had our encounter

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so tell us a bit about that what how did

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that occur

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um well my son came home

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from school

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and well there's kind of two encounters

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here together so a couple days but prior

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to the the encounter the big encounter

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we had

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um he came home from school and I heard

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him walking up the driveway I'm a mom I

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stay up and

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um I want to make sure that my kids make

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it home you know from school even if

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they are in their 20s so

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um I heard him walking up the driveway

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because he usually parks on the driveway

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below uh and then I heard them probably

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30 seconds later walking back down the

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driveway so I jumped up real quick

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thinking oh no did we lock the door on

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him can he knock it in

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um so I ran into the kitchen because I

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was gonna try and catch him

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um well I looked out the window I didn't

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see him I ran into the kitchen only to

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find him standing in the kitchen

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so I kind of looked at him where he was

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petting the dogs and I was like

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that was kind of weird because I

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literally just heard him 10 seconds

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earlier walking down the driveway how

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can he be in two places a month right no

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no you know of course

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we hadn't talked about anything we

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hadn't had any Mutual encounters so I

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just kind of put it away with the other

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encounter just as well that was kind of

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weird and I went back to bed

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and then a couple days later he came

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into the bedroom my husband was sleeping

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um or Greg was sleeping sorry and uh

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is I'm very sensitive and noises wake me

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up so as soon as he opened the door I

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was like hey what's going on because

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this is about maybe 12 30 at night and

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or 12 30 in the morning and he said um

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you got to come outside something's got

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the chickens and I said what do you mean

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something's got the chickens and he goes

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mom just come outside and bring a friend

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which we all know what that means right

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so of course I jump up throw my robe on

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throw my slippers on grab the 20 gauge

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and head outside so as we're walking

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outside he starts telling me about how

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he heard something get one of the

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chickens we had we had one chicken that

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was

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um the other chickens would beat it up

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so we just let it free range and it

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never had any problems no Predators got

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it we called him lonely boy because he

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was by himself right so

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um as we're walking out he starts

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telling me about how he heard something

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and lonely boy was making a lot of noise

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he figured there was a predator out so

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he went outside with his handgun and

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from the porch he has a pretty high

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powered um flashlight so he was shining

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the light in the neighbor's yard where

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he heard lonely was and when he did that

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he saw that something had grasped lonely

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around the center

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and

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all of a sudden this thing was a face

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and it was not a not a coyote not a wolf

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but something some kind of dog kind of

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creature and it was very large and had

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um yellowish reddish eyes and they was

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glaring at him and when he saw that he

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was like oh I need some help so that's

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when he came in and got me

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so as we went out

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um I could see we were in the middle of

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the yard I couldn't see any creature

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didn't hear any creature

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um and lonely boy was like he was

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crashing against we have a we have like

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a three foot

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um

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neighbors and our our property and he

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was crashing it was just I mean he was

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going to break his neck he was crashing

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so frantically against that so I told

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Drew I said hey you know reach over

362
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there and grab him and he looked at me

363
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and went

364
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I think that's something out of a horror

365
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movie mom and I and I finally realized

366
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what I said so I convinced him to

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actually lift up the fence I don't know

368
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I don't know why he did it but he did it

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so

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um he lifted up the fence and that

371
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rooster came he was a white rooster so

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we could see him at night he came

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barreling out from underneath that fence

374
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he went

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behind me and literally I could see him

376
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sizing me up and he decided nope I

377
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wasn't enough and he went running up

378
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underneath the porch

379
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and he stayed there for three days wow

380
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so then Drew and I were we were shining

381
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our flashlights around and trying to

382
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look and as we're standing there we were

383
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probably about 10 15 feet from the

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neighbor's property in the fence

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we heard this growl and it was not a

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growl that came from the ground it

387
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wasn't this growl was from about eight

388
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nine feet in the air

389
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and where the growl came from at that

390
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time this was you know 12 years ago

391
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there were no trees there that would

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have sustained something that large

393
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so whatever it was was literally

394
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standing up and it was about 10 15 feet

395
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in front of us and and we had high power

396
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flashlights we couldn't see it

397
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but we just both looked at each other

398
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and said we need to go in the house

399
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so we went into the house and

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um where we were talking about it and

401
00:17:45,950 --> 00:17:43,500
then it made that

402
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that howling sound that it had made like

403
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a week and a half before when it came

404
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after me almost like it was really mad

405
00:17:55,010 --> 00:17:53,460
so the weird thing about that is when I

406
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checked when I finally got the check on

407
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Lonely Boy

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um he had no marks on him he had no

409
00:18:03,230 --> 00:18:01,200
puncture marks all he had was a few

410
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feathers missing out of his tail

411
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so you know what can grab a chicken out

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of a yard jump over a three foot fence

413
00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:11,280
hold it in its mouth and not harm it

414
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that was kind of my question that kept

415
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going around in my head and what was the

416
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purpose of it was the purpose of it you

417
00:18:21,230 --> 00:18:19,080
know at this point I knew we had

418
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something weird going on

419
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um but was the purpose of it to draw us

420
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out

421
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or you know because the purpose of it

422
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yeah yeah it was play it was playing

423
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with the chicken so and that actually

424
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happened another time a couple weeks

425
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later and then we started Lonely Boy

426
00:18:42,770 --> 00:18:41,400
started coming on the back porch at

427
00:18:45,770 --> 00:18:42,780
night he would actually knock on the

428
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door for us to let him in the house he

429
00:18:49,430 --> 00:18:47,580
didn't want to be outside yeah yeah I

430
00:18:53,870 --> 00:18:49,440
don't blame him so

431
00:18:56,450 --> 00:18:53,880
so what did that evolve into where I

432
00:18:58,190 --> 00:18:56,460
knew you had a bigger encounter later

433
00:18:59,690 --> 00:18:58,200
um what happened

434
00:19:01,270 --> 00:18:59,700
well

435
00:19:05,090 --> 00:19:01,280
do you want to talk a little bit about

436
00:19:07,070 --> 00:19:05,100
what was going around around the house

437
00:19:09,650 --> 00:19:07,080
yeah there was one

438
00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:09,660
um when it was me and Drew and Carrie

439
00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:12,480
and I think there was

440
00:19:17,210 --> 00:19:15,360
some it was it on the roof or on the

441
00:19:19,669 --> 00:19:17,220
walls we there was some pounding going

442
00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:19,679
on that that's what I kind of heard

443
00:19:24,890 --> 00:19:22,080
that's what really caught my attention

444
00:19:28,190 --> 00:19:24,900
um and we went outside again with some

445
00:19:31,610 --> 00:19:28,200
friends that we were all carrying and

446
00:19:33,289 --> 00:19:31,620
we we kept hearing it sounded like of

447
00:19:35,390 --> 00:19:33,299
course my first thought was it's just a

448
00:19:37,310 --> 00:19:35,400
deer running through the woods

449
00:19:38,810 --> 00:19:37,320
um up on Earth we have a pretty large we

450
00:19:40,610 --> 00:19:38,820
have two acres

451
00:19:43,310 --> 00:19:40,620
so we have a top yard where there's

452
00:19:45,169 --> 00:19:43,320
there's brush there and we're kind of on

453
00:19:47,630 --> 00:19:45,179
all three sides there's brush and then

454
00:19:51,950 --> 00:19:47,640
there's an antique kind of mall behind

455
00:19:54,470 --> 00:19:51,960
us but so we heard it in the top yard

456
00:19:56,390 --> 00:19:54,480
um and then so we started heading that

457
00:20:00,289 --> 00:19:56,400
way and then within a couple seconds it

458
00:20:02,570 --> 00:20:00,299
was directly behind us and then

459
00:20:05,390 --> 00:20:02,580
it was to the right of it so it was

460
00:20:07,310 --> 00:20:05,400
almost like there was multiple

461
00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:07,320
um things moving around us you know it

462
00:20:15,049 --> 00:20:08,400
was

463
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:15,059
deer raccoon

464
00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:16,559
you know

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um and I think that was we didn't really

466
00:20:23,390 --> 00:20:21,179
get any Footprints or anything from that

467
00:20:26,930 --> 00:20:23,400
one no not yet so

468
00:20:29,450 --> 00:20:26,940
um just just we we started having it was

469
00:20:32,210 --> 00:20:29,460
almost like this thing realized that we

470
00:20:34,190 --> 00:20:32,220
could at least hear it and we were aware

471
00:20:36,650 --> 00:20:34,200
of it because we came out with guns

472
00:20:38,990 --> 00:20:36,660
obviously so I think it started toying

473
00:20:41,150 --> 00:20:39,000
with us or they started toying with us

474
00:20:44,450 --> 00:20:41,160
um later on we pretty much decided that

475
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we we had a pack that would come here

476
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um but it was toying with us it would

477
00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:48,660
knock on the Windows it it and to this

478
00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:52,080
day it knocks on the door it likes to

479
00:20:58,010 --> 00:20:54,720
look at us because I can always I'm very

480
00:21:00,289 --> 00:20:58,020
sensitive of those things and

481
00:21:01,730 --> 00:21:00,299
um I know when it's here I can feel when

482
00:21:02,750 --> 00:21:01,740
it's here because there's a distinct

483
00:21:04,789 --> 00:21:02,760
feel

484
00:21:07,310 --> 00:21:04,799
um sometimes we smell it it marks it

485
00:21:10,010 --> 00:21:07,320
marks our house with the most ungodly

486
00:21:12,110 --> 00:21:10,020
urine smell you never want to smell

487
00:21:13,970 --> 00:21:12,120
um our dogs are scared to go out you

488
00:21:15,529 --> 00:21:13,980
know we always know first off when it's

489
00:21:16,990 --> 00:21:15,539
there because the dogs won't go outside

490
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at all

491
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and it comes all times of the day mostly

492
00:21:26,510 --> 00:21:24,360
at dusk but it can come at four o'clock

493
00:21:28,669 --> 00:21:26,520
in the morning it can come during the

494
00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:28,679
day my daughter has had instances where

495
00:21:34,669 --> 00:21:31,440
she's been here she won't be here alone

496
00:21:35,810 --> 00:21:34,679
um unless we're here uh because she was

497
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here and it was pounding I mean

498
00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:37,200
literally pounding on the side of the

499
00:21:40,850 --> 00:21:38,880
house if you can imagine sitting here

500
00:21:43,070 --> 00:21:40,860
you know watching TV or something and

501
00:21:44,810 --> 00:21:43,080
then all of a sudden hearing pounding

502
00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:44,820
um and then going outside and not seeing

503
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:47,760
anything that you know it's almost like

504
00:21:51,770 --> 00:21:49,440
it was it was just playing with us we

505
00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:51,780
were like toys to it you also mentioned

506
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that it was leaving stones and sticks

507
00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:56,460
stairs well for you yeah um by the

508
00:22:01,010 --> 00:21:58,320
bedroom window by

509
00:22:02,270 --> 00:22:01,020
um my bedroom window or our bedroom

510
00:22:04,730 --> 00:22:02,280
window

511
00:22:07,310 --> 00:22:04,740
um I would find just random stones that

512
00:22:09,230 --> 00:22:07,320
were stacked on top of each other

513
00:22:11,570 --> 00:22:09,240
um you know sometimes a large Stone

514
00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:11,580
probably about you know like this this

515
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big

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um just laid against the side out of the

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00:22:19,130 --> 00:22:16,580
house

518
00:22:19,970 --> 00:22:19,140
sticks laid us against the side of the

519
00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:19,980
house

520
00:22:24,770 --> 00:22:22,260
um just you know you know perpendicular

521
00:22:26,990 --> 00:22:24,780
to the house and and things like that

522
00:22:28,909 --> 00:22:27,000
I'm almost like you know right next to

523
00:22:31,730 --> 00:22:28,919
the bedroom window that was that was the

524
00:22:32,450 --> 00:22:31,740
first time that I started noticing that

525
00:22:34,010 --> 00:22:32,460
um

526
00:22:36,649 --> 00:22:34,020
so you want to tell them what we did

527
00:22:40,010 --> 00:22:36,659
when all the stuff started happening

528
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,020
well I'm I'm a non-believer so I'm gonna

529
00:22:43,970 --> 00:22:42,000
kind of write it off to the logical side

530
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:43,980
of things so

531
00:22:49,370 --> 00:22:46,559
um Carrie's like oh no no it's this well

532
00:22:52,850 --> 00:22:49,380
no it's probably animals so we decided

533
00:22:56,149 --> 00:22:52,860
to get a trail cam and I think we bought

534
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:56,159
two yeah and so we got some pretty good

535
00:22:59,149 --> 00:22:58,320
footage from that

536
00:23:01,549 --> 00:22:59,159
um

537
00:23:02,810 --> 00:23:01,559
and I I still even after we got the

538
00:23:03,529 --> 00:23:02,820
shots

539
00:23:05,810 --> 00:23:03,539
um

540
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:05,820
kind of still wrote it off as a raccoon

541
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:07,679
but we actually had are you talking

542
00:23:12,169 --> 00:23:09,600
about the picture of the eyes of when

543
00:23:14,029 --> 00:23:12,179
you went outside yeah we used one of our

544
00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:14,039
our older sheds

545
00:23:18,770 --> 00:23:17,039
as a chicken coop

546
00:23:20,450 --> 00:23:18,780
um so we kind of you can see we built a

547
00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:20,460
fence on the out so they could go in and

548
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:22,080
out

549
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:26,640
just to shut them up feed them make sure

550
00:23:32,810 --> 00:23:30,720
everything was cool and Carrie showed me

551
00:23:34,970 --> 00:23:32,820
um why we checked the footage maybe the

552
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:34,980
next day

553
00:23:38,750 --> 00:23:36,960
um and she's like she's freaking out and

554
00:23:42,169 --> 00:23:38,760
I'm like oh you know that's a raccoon

555
00:23:44,090 --> 00:23:42,179
but um you can clearly see that it's not

556
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:44,100
a raccoon

557
00:23:51,470 --> 00:23:48,000
um but I I still kind of really wasn't a

558
00:23:54,169 --> 00:23:51,480
Believer but actually actually after I

559
00:23:55,310 --> 00:23:54,179
kind of caught a raccoon's eyes up in

560
00:23:58,669 --> 00:23:55,320
the trees

561
00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:58,679
and saw the distance from the

562
00:24:03,169 --> 00:24:01,200
from the two eyes that that you can look

563
00:24:06,590 --> 00:24:03,179
at that picture and know that that head

564
00:24:09,230 --> 00:24:06,600
is way bigger than a raccoon's eyes so

565
00:24:11,149 --> 00:24:09,240
that's kind of when I kind of said I

566
00:24:14,330 --> 00:24:11,159
think we got something going on here in

567
00:24:16,490 --> 00:24:14,340
the in the yard so so when I first saw

568
00:24:17,570 --> 00:24:16,500
this picture I almost deleted the first

569
00:24:19,130 --> 00:24:17,580
one because I was like well there's

570
00:24:21,289 --> 00:24:19,140
nothing there

571
00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:21,299
um but I went on to the second one and

572
00:24:25,070 --> 00:24:23,039
then I literally sat there for an hour

573
00:24:27,649 --> 00:24:25,080
toggling back and forth between the two

574
00:24:30,890 --> 00:24:27,659
pictures because you can literally see

575
00:24:33,649 --> 00:24:30,900
now this where where the point is on the

576
00:24:36,110 --> 00:24:33,659
roof if you want to um

577
00:24:37,730 --> 00:24:36,120
um zoom in yeah zoom in there where the

578
00:24:40,430 --> 00:24:37,740
point is on the roof I measured it

579
00:24:42,590 --> 00:24:40,440
that's six and a half feet okay there is

580
00:24:44,810 --> 00:24:42,600
nothing on the other side of that that

581
00:24:46,909 --> 00:24:44,820
anything can be standing on the tree

582
00:24:49,250 --> 00:24:46,919
that's in that picture is about four

583
00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:49,260
feet behind the building so there's

584
00:24:55,610 --> 00:24:51,840
nothing hanging in the tree

585
00:24:58,010 --> 00:24:55,620
um I even sent these pictures to ODNR to

586
00:24:59,810 --> 00:24:58,020
have them evaluate it and of course they

587
00:25:01,130 --> 00:24:59,820
said well it's two raccoons where I said

588
00:25:02,570 --> 00:25:01,140
well if there's two raccoons there

589
00:25:04,970 --> 00:25:02,580
should be four eyes

590
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:04,980
unless they're looking away but the

591
00:25:10,250 --> 00:25:07,440
thing that kind of gets me is how this

592
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:10,260
thing hunkered down it it has the

593
00:25:15,529 --> 00:25:12,240
intelligence

594
00:25:17,090 --> 00:25:15,539
um to hunker down and kind of go with

595
00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:17,100
the the

596
00:25:20,029 --> 00:25:18,000
um

597
00:25:22,909 --> 00:25:20,039
the side of the roof

598
00:25:25,070 --> 00:25:22,919
and then as soon as he turns away and

599
00:25:27,230 --> 00:25:25,080
and isn't looking pretty much directly

600
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:27,240
at it it pokes its head up and it

601
00:25:32,269 --> 00:25:29,120
watches him walk away

602
00:25:34,430 --> 00:25:32,279
and that really made my skin crawl when

603
00:25:36,769 --> 00:25:34,440
I saw that and then I I asked him I said

604
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:36,779
did you hear anything

605
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:39,840
the only thing I I heard was almost a

606
00:25:42,890 --> 00:25:42,000
like a clicking

607
00:25:46,250 --> 00:25:42,900
um

608
00:25:48,890 --> 00:25:46,260
or like I I want to say maybe I kind of

609
00:25:51,529 --> 00:25:48,900
thought it would be like a small animal

610
00:25:53,090 --> 00:25:51,539
but you know most animals these

611
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:53,100
squirrels and stuff really don't make

612
00:25:57,289 --> 00:25:55,200
that kind of noise but that's the only

613
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:57,299
thing I I can really say I remember

614
00:26:02,510 --> 00:25:59,520
hearing but it was really

615
00:26:05,090 --> 00:26:02,520
when this thing seems to be around it

616
00:26:08,450 --> 00:26:05,100
it's very quiet because we have a lot of

617
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:08,460
animals but when when Carrie knows that

618
00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:11,279
it's in the vicinity you won't hear bur

619
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:13,440
you won't you know what I mean it's like

620
00:26:19,310 --> 00:26:16,320
kind of creepy silence so

621
00:26:21,049 --> 00:26:19,320
it appears that everything around us

622
00:26:23,450 --> 00:26:21,059
that's that's you know the natural

623
00:26:27,409 --> 00:26:23,460
habitat seems to know when this this

624
00:26:29,690 --> 00:26:27,419
guy's in the neighborhood so

625
00:26:32,690 --> 00:26:29,700
so um

626
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:32,700
you you later got another photograph as

627
00:26:35,930 --> 00:26:34,320
well you said was the back of this

628
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:35,940
creature

629
00:26:40,970 --> 00:26:38,400
yes do you guys have that one I don't

630
00:26:45,529 --> 00:26:40,980
know I do I'm I guess Vincent may have

631
00:26:47,390 --> 00:26:45,539
it okay so we we gotta like as anybody

632
00:26:50,330 --> 00:26:47,400
who puts out trail cams you get a bunch

633
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:50,340
of Miss flashes and stuff like that um

634
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:52,799
no is there another one yeah this one I

635
00:26:56,450 --> 00:26:54,240
don't know what that was at first I

636
00:26:58,909 --> 00:26:56,460
thought it was me but I literally had

637
00:27:01,730 --> 00:26:58,919
these trail cams six feet off the ground

638
00:27:04,370 --> 00:27:01,740
so and I didn't turn them on until I

639
00:27:06,830 --> 00:27:04,380
placed them so that is not me so I'm not

640
00:27:09,289 --> 00:27:06,840
really sure what that is but there's

641
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,299
another picture where we got the back of

642
00:27:12,769 --> 00:27:11,039
something and you can tell it wasn't a

643
00:27:15,769 --> 00:27:12,779
misfire because you can see the trees

644
00:27:18,169 --> 00:27:15,779
off to the right and it was literally

645
00:27:20,690 --> 00:27:18,179
probably something that was over seven

646
00:27:23,690 --> 00:27:20,700
feet tall and you catch there you go so

647
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:23,700
so up in the right hand corner you can

648
00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:25,440
actually see the leaves and the trees so

649
00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:28,080
you so that is something that I assume

650
00:27:34,250 --> 00:27:31,260
ran by the camera very very quickly well

651
00:27:38,510 --> 00:27:34,260
you can see the hair on it exactly yeah

652
00:27:39,890 --> 00:27:38,520
that that is a hairy back and you know I

653
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,900
don't know what we have around here

654
00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:41,520
that's over seven feet tall that has

655
00:27:46,250 --> 00:27:43,860
hair like that coming off of its back

656
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:46,260
so when we started seeing these pictures

657
00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:48,480
I was like okay we've got something here

658
00:27:55,789 --> 00:27:52,440
that we can't explain right so

659
00:27:59,870 --> 00:27:55,799
um and then the um

660
00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:59,880
the we started in it into the winter we

661
00:28:03,049 --> 00:28:01,440
started having some Footprints some

662
00:28:04,909 --> 00:28:03,059
mysterious footprints around the house

663
00:28:06,890 --> 00:28:04,919
and

664
00:28:08,029 --> 00:28:06,900
um Greg was I think you were gone at

665
00:28:09,950 --> 00:28:08,039
this time

666
00:28:11,810 --> 00:28:09,960
um he had some so if you can see here I

667
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:11,820
was home by myself he was he was doing

668
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:14,159
some some traveling

669
00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:17,279
um but we had these footprints that I

670
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:19,919
saw when I came home from work and I'd

671
00:28:23,630 --> 00:28:21,840
gotten the dogs out and I put them away

672
00:28:26,210 --> 00:28:23,640
immediately because I I thought that

673
00:28:27,710 --> 00:28:26,220
these Footprints were so strange I went

674
00:28:28,909 --> 00:28:27,720
and I got and I don't know if you have

675
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:28,919
the one

676
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:31,679
um I got the

677
00:28:35,149 --> 00:28:32,640
um

678
00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:35,159
the that when they plow the driveways

679
00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:37,440
they put those orange

680
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:38,159
um

681
00:28:42,610 --> 00:28:40,559
what what you may call it like posts

682
00:28:45,049 --> 00:28:42,620
yeah the markers yeah

683
00:28:46,669 --> 00:28:45,059
and they were very light so I went and

684
00:28:48,289 --> 00:28:46,679
grabbed one of those because it was a

685
00:28:50,930 --> 00:28:48,299
very light snow and I wanted something

686
00:28:52,490 --> 00:28:50,940
and these Footprints these are three

687
00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:52,500
feet long

688
00:28:58,370 --> 00:28:55,200
um poles and these Footprints the space

689
00:29:01,610 --> 00:28:58,380
between them is longer than these poles

690
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:01,620
okay and now we you know we live early

691
00:29:05,870 --> 00:29:04,320
so we have rabbits and and you know some

692
00:29:07,250 --> 00:29:05,880
people are like well that's a rabbit I

693
00:29:10,130 --> 00:29:07,260
don't know of a rabbit that can jump

694
00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:10,140
four or five feet right not only that

695
00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:12,480
but you can usually see it's a distinct

696
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:14,580
pattern too I mean it's like

697
00:29:20,210 --> 00:29:17,760
yeah it's like the uh you can see the

698
00:29:22,370 --> 00:29:20,220
back legs in the snow the body then the

699
00:29:24,889 --> 00:29:22,380
back legs of this in the snow right

700
00:29:27,169 --> 00:29:24,899
distinctive pattern to it I mean this

701
00:29:29,330 --> 00:29:27,179
looked like a very tall man walked

702
00:29:32,330 --> 00:29:29,340
through our yard and you can see in this

703
00:29:33,950 --> 00:29:32,340
one you can see that the dogs had run

704
00:29:35,389 --> 00:29:33,960
through a couple of them and I got them

705
00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:35,399
in the house right away before they

706
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:37,620
ruined them now I even went inside and

707
00:29:42,110 --> 00:29:40,320
got myself a hair blower to try and get

708
00:29:43,970 --> 00:29:42,120
some of that light snow out of there to

709
00:29:45,529 --> 00:29:43,980
see if I can actually see the Prints but

710
00:29:48,110 --> 00:29:45,539
unfortunately they were it was about

711
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:48,120
they're they're probably about 12 inches

712
00:29:52,190 --> 00:29:49,919
deep there so I wasn't able to get that

713
00:29:54,830 --> 00:29:52,200
at that time but what was really weird

714
00:29:58,850 --> 00:29:54,840
about that was

715
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:58,860
they seem to either start or end right

716
00:30:03,230 --> 00:30:01,440
at our bay window and that's where this

717
00:30:05,810 --> 00:30:03,240
creature I think likes are these

718
00:30:07,789 --> 00:30:05,820
creatures like to look in our house

719
00:30:10,010 --> 00:30:07,799
um well this picture that you're seeing

720
00:30:12,169 --> 00:30:10,020
are my footprints I walked alongside of

721
00:30:16,250 --> 00:30:12,179
it so I took three steps to its one

722
00:30:20,269 --> 00:30:16,260
right uh three normal human steps

723
00:30:22,029 --> 00:30:20,279
um anyway so they ended or started right

724
00:30:23,630 --> 00:30:22,039
in our bay window

725
00:30:25,549 --> 00:30:23,640
and

726
00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:25,559
um

727
00:30:29,330 --> 00:30:27,720
went to the back of our property so

728
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:29,340
either this thing was on our roof and

729
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:31,919
jumped down or it came from the back of

730
00:30:35,570 --> 00:30:33,840
the property and went up to the roof all

731
00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:35,580
right that's another story so hold those

732
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:38,399
pictures don't put those up yet

733
00:30:43,850 --> 00:30:41,279
that's for all for another story

734
00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:43,860
um so you know when I when I saw that I

735
00:30:47,690 --> 00:30:45,360
immediately went out and took pictures

736
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:47,700
now I don't know anything about taking

737
00:30:53,330 --> 00:30:49,919
pictures or doing anything like that so

738
00:30:56,090 --> 00:30:53,340
I I was just an amateur doing it so you

739
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:56,100
know I didn't get any casts yet

740
00:31:01,070 --> 00:30:58,080
um but hopefully we'll get some you know

741
00:31:04,269 --> 00:31:01,080
when whenever we see our next Footprints

742
00:31:07,370 --> 00:31:04,279
um so then the one that really

743
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:07,380
really solidified the fact that we had a

744
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:09,120
dog man here because you know in the

745
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,559
back your mind like Greg said you're

746
00:31:15,409 --> 00:31:12,720
trying to rationalize it you're trying

747
00:31:16,730 --> 00:31:15,419
to look for a natural explanation

748
00:31:19,370 --> 00:31:16,740
um Greg was

749
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:19,380
um he was he was out of the house and I

750
00:31:24,889 --> 00:31:22,559
was home alone and my son was um then

751
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:24,899
going to Hocking Hills

752
00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:27,120
and he really struggled with going to

753
00:31:30,350 --> 00:31:28,980
Hocking Hills because you know he knew

754
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:30,360
that these things were around and he

755
00:31:33,230 --> 00:31:31,679
didn't want to leave me and he knew I

756
00:31:35,149 --> 00:31:33,240
was home alone a lot so he didn't want

757
00:31:36,649 --> 00:31:35,159
to leave me but I said you know what are

758
00:31:38,269 --> 00:31:36,659
you going to do you're at college most

759
00:31:40,070 --> 00:31:38,279
of the time anyway so you've got to go

760
00:31:44,930 --> 00:31:40,080
so

761
00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:44,940
work it was about I don't know about I

762
00:31:50,210 --> 00:31:47,760
don't know about 10 10 30 and I heard

763
00:31:51,710 --> 00:31:50,220
the usual walking on the back deck I

764
00:31:54,289 --> 00:31:51,720
heard the thumping on the side of the

765
00:31:56,029 --> 00:31:54,299
house so I gave him a call and I let him

766
00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:56,039
know and I walked over to the kitchen

767
00:32:01,250 --> 00:31:58,799
sink now we have a window that looks out

768
00:32:02,990 --> 00:32:01,260
into our yard and we can see our

769
00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:03,000
neighbors like Greg had said previously

770
00:32:10,669 --> 00:32:07,260
the antique barn and this night was so

771
00:32:13,490 --> 00:32:10,679
bright we had a full moon and we had

772
00:32:15,409 --> 00:32:13,500
just gotten a nice snow so I could see

773
00:32:16,490 --> 00:32:15,419
perfectly outside it was almost like it

774
00:32:19,010 --> 00:32:16,500
was Daylight

775
00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:19,020
and I'm talking to my son on on the on

776
00:32:26,090 --> 00:32:22,080
the phone and all of a sudden I see this

777
00:32:28,010 --> 00:32:26,100
figure run from one side of the

778
00:32:29,570 --> 00:32:28,020
neighbor's driveway by the Antique Barn

779
00:32:31,610 --> 00:32:29,580
all the way down to the other side

780
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:31,620
probably about 100 yards and it was

781
00:32:36,649 --> 00:32:34,080
about a Split Second

782
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:36,659
um and as I'm sitting there it starts

783
00:32:41,330 --> 00:32:38,640
going back and forth back and forth back

784
00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:41,340
and forth It's it's crouching down it I

785
00:32:46,610 --> 00:32:44,580
mean this was a bipedal creature

786
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:46,620
um I could I can make out the arms I can

787
00:32:50,510 --> 00:32:48,240
make out the head it was kind of

788
00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:50,520
crunched down almost like and it was

789
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:52,080
lunging at something that was on the

790
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:54,000
ground

791
00:32:58,450 --> 00:32:56,399
and I I literally sat there for 20

792
00:33:01,250 --> 00:32:58,460
minutes watching this now here you go

793
00:33:03,169 --> 00:33:01,260
I'm my mind it's like you go through

794
00:33:05,630 --> 00:33:03,179
these phases because literally I'm

795
00:33:07,370 --> 00:33:05,640
talking to my son and I'm going what the

796
00:33:10,190 --> 00:33:07,380
heck is that what the heck is that what

797
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:10,200
is that and I had totally forgotten that

798
00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:12,000
I was actually talking to him on the

799
00:33:16,190 --> 00:33:14,580
phone you know and I've had friends of

800
00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:16,200
mine that I've I've told them about this

801
00:33:20,210 --> 00:33:17,519
encounter and they've said why didn't

802
00:33:23,090 --> 00:33:20,220
you record it and I'm like I you don't

803
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:23,100
think when you see these things you just

804
00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:25,440
your mind is just trying to figure out

805
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:29,100
what the heck you're seeing right so as

806
00:33:32,450 --> 00:33:30,480
I'm watching this thing go back and

807
00:33:33,889 --> 00:33:32,460
forth I'm sitting there going what the

808
00:33:37,370 --> 00:33:33,899
heck is that what the heck is that and

809
00:33:39,049 --> 00:33:37,380
my son all of a sudden shouts mom what

810
00:33:41,389 --> 00:33:39,059
is going on

811
00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:41,399
and I went oh Drew I'm really sorry I

812
00:33:44,450 --> 00:33:42,720
said uh

813
00:33:46,490 --> 00:33:44,460
um and I told him what I was seeing and

814
00:33:48,110 --> 00:33:46,500
he's like don't go outside and I think

815
00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:48,120
my response was something like well

816
00:33:53,630 --> 00:33:49,620
that's kind of crazy because it's kind

817
00:33:56,810 --> 00:33:53,640
of cold out there so I'm like so

818
00:33:58,250 --> 00:33:56,820
um but the next day I decided you know I

819
00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:58,260
was praying all that night that it

820
00:34:01,070 --> 00:33:59,519
wouldn't snow again

821
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:01,080
because I knew there had to be

822
00:34:04,850 --> 00:34:02,880
Footprints out there I knew there had to

823
00:34:08,210 --> 00:34:04,860
be Footprints I wanted proof of this

824
00:34:11,210 --> 00:34:08,220
once and for all so the next day

825
00:34:14,210 --> 00:34:11,220
um I had off work and I walked out there

826
00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:14,220
and there were tons of footprints but

827
00:34:18,050 --> 00:34:16,260
the problem was

828
00:34:19,970 --> 00:34:18,060
um it had run inside of its own

829
00:34:23,629 --> 00:34:19,980
Footprints there were slide marks where

830
00:34:25,849 --> 00:34:23,639
it had slid so it took me almost 25 to

831
00:34:28,070 --> 00:34:25,859
30 minutes before I could actually find

832
00:34:30,770 --> 00:34:28,080
a valuable footprint that I could take a

833
00:34:35,389 --> 00:34:30,780
picture of so if you want to show those

834
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:38,329
so I the only thing I could gauge it

835
00:34:44,210 --> 00:34:41,520
with was my hand so these are actually

836
00:34:48,109 --> 00:34:44,220
two different kinds of footprints

837
00:34:49,609 --> 00:34:48,119
um I believe one of the footprints is a

838
00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:49,619
front

839
00:34:54,770 --> 00:34:53,220
um hand and I believe the other one is a

840
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:54,780
back paw

841
00:34:59,450 --> 00:34:57,119
and the one thing that I I thought was

842
00:35:02,630 --> 00:34:59,460
weird about this is it it seems to be

843
00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:02,640
that they run the ones that we have here

844
00:35:06,770 --> 00:35:04,800
um run on their tippy toes yeah that's

845
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:06,780
what I was gonna ask you if they looked

846
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:10,079
like they were on their pads yes no I

847
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:12,240
mean in any of these pictures I could

848
00:35:16,430 --> 00:35:14,400
not find a pad

849
00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:16,440
um the one where I've got my hand next

850
00:35:21,950 --> 00:35:18,660
to that's almost you can actually if you

851
00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:21,960
zoom into that you can see the nails

852
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:24,660
um you can see the claw marks

853
00:35:28,970 --> 00:35:27,119
um it would I think that was when it was

854
00:35:30,890 --> 00:35:28,980
reaching for something now there was

855
00:35:34,430 --> 00:35:30,900
some blood out there I think it was

856
00:35:37,010 --> 00:35:34,440
after some rabbits that one there that

857
00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:37,020
is that the one on the right that's the

858
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:39,540
back foot right I believe because you

859
00:35:44,990 --> 00:35:42,000
don't see the the paw print or the the

860
00:35:47,390 --> 00:35:45,000
back pads at all so it

861
00:35:51,050 --> 00:35:47,400
it has a different kind of foot rather

862
00:35:53,410 --> 00:35:51,060
than like a regular dog's foot right and

863
00:35:56,890 --> 00:35:53,420
the one to the left you can actually see

864
00:35:59,390 --> 00:35:56,900
where the slide where it's slid

865
00:36:01,130 --> 00:35:59,400
you know I think there was a footprint

866
00:36:02,810 --> 00:36:01,140
there and it slid and then it reached

867
00:36:04,849 --> 00:36:02,820
for something and grabbed down so you

868
00:36:06,890 --> 00:36:04,859
got that that nice little hand claw

869
00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:06,900
print there

870
00:36:12,770 --> 00:36:11,220
um so after I got these prints you can

871
00:36:15,230 --> 00:36:12,780
see that these prints are on they're

872
00:36:17,930 --> 00:36:15,240
pretty much as big as my hand

873
00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:17,940
um we have a seven we had a 75 pound

874
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:20,940
black lab Wilson I went over and found

875
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:23,040
some of his Footprints so you could see

876
00:36:27,950 --> 00:36:25,440
kind of the difference in the sizes of

877
00:36:31,310 --> 00:36:27,960
these Footprints and even just how

878
00:36:36,890 --> 00:36:31,320
the D how it looks so differently

879
00:36:42,770 --> 00:36:41,270
there yeah right there so on the left is

880
00:36:44,930 --> 00:36:42,780
the dog man

881
00:36:48,290 --> 00:36:44,940
um I think that's its back back feet and

882
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:48,300
you can see by my thumb how it's it's

883
00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:52,560
back feet is kind of like spread out so

884
00:36:58,910 --> 00:36:55,560
um you almost have like almost a thumb

885
00:37:01,370 --> 00:36:58,920
um expenditure or appendix there but

886
00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:01,380
then in the right that's our black labs

887
00:37:05,089 --> 00:37:03,119
footprint so these are not dog

888
00:37:07,790 --> 00:37:05,099
Footprints whatsoever they're not dear

889
00:37:08,569 --> 00:37:07,800
Footprints I don't you know from what I

890
00:37:10,970 --> 00:37:08,579
saw

891
00:37:13,790 --> 00:37:10,980
it was a bipedal animal that was running

892
00:37:15,710 --> 00:37:13,800
on two feet that was extremely I mean

893
00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:15,720
these things are extremely fast

894
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:18,780
and um

895
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:20,640
yeah I mean that's that's about all

896
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:25,440
about that one well look um I I know

897
00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:28,560
later on I guess it was February of uh

898
00:37:34,430 --> 00:37:31,859
2011 you had people come over you had

899
00:37:36,349 --> 00:37:34,440
visitors and such and some other people

900
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:36,359
actually

901
00:37:41,930 --> 00:37:38,400
realized that you had something there as

902
00:37:43,849 --> 00:37:41,940
well didn't it yeah yeah in fact um

903
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:43,859
we've had a lot of people that have had

904
00:37:47,810 --> 00:37:45,599
encounters and none of them actually

905
00:37:49,970 --> 00:37:47,820
ever come back to our house is that

906
00:37:51,890 --> 00:37:49,980
right yeah they just they're just like

907
00:37:53,569 --> 00:37:51,900
nope nope not half because they they

908
00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:53,579
just can't wrap their heads around it

909
00:37:56,810 --> 00:37:55,320
you know a lot of them ask us you know

910
00:37:59,270 --> 00:37:56,820
why do you live there

911
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:59,280
you know and and sometimes we can't

912
00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:00,960
answer that question very well either

913
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:03,839
but um so

914
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:07,440
we had we had a friend of ours do you

915
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:09,119
want to tell them the story about

916
00:38:13,310 --> 00:38:12,240
watching scooter oh yeah we were dog

917
00:38:14,329 --> 00:38:13,320
sitting

918
00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:14,339
um

919
00:38:20,770 --> 00:38:18,180
and when I came over we were eating

920
00:38:24,170 --> 00:38:20,780
and she had two kids

921
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:24,180
and I think we were we finished up

922
00:38:28,250 --> 00:38:25,440
eating it and it was kind of getting

923
00:38:30,170 --> 00:38:28,260
dark and she came in and and she said

924
00:38:33,770 --> 00:38:30,180
that we had a very weird weird neighbor

925
00:38:36,170 --> 00:38:33,780
and and we were like well no but they're

926
00:38:38,089 --> 00:38:36,180
okay we like our neighbors you know what

927
00:38:40,130 --> 00:38:38,099
do you mean she goes well he's

928
00:38:41,810 --> 00:38:40,140
what breaking breaking leaves or

929
00:38:43,550 --> 00:38:41,820
something no that's when he said he was

930
00:38:45,530 --> 00:38:43,560
standing I was standing up at the top

931
00:38:46,730 --> 00:38:45,540
yeah he was watching the kids play with

932
00:38:47,770 --> 00:38:46,740
the dog because she brought her kids

933
00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:47,780
over

934
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,060
watching the kids he was up in the tree

935
00:38:55,010 --> 00:38:53,280
line watching the kids he had a gray fur

936
00:38:56,450 --> 00:38:55,020
coat on and he kept swinging his arms

937
00:38:58,130 --> 00:38:56,460
back and forth like he was looking for

938
00:39:02,569 --> 00:38:58,140
something in the weeds

939
00:39:04,250 --> 00:39:02,579
so I was like yeah um so instantly I

940
00:39:06,170 --> 00:39:04,260
knew what what she was talking about I

941
00:39:08,510 --> 00:39:06,180
knew we we have a nickname for that dog

942
00:39:11,569 --> 00:39:08,520
man his name we call him Mr Gray

943
00:39:13,849 --> 00:39:11,579
because he is gray and and we believe he

944
00:39:15,710 --> 00:39:13,859
is the elder of the pack that we have

945
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:15,720
some of them are brown some of them are

946
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:17,040
black he's the only one that we see

947
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:18,720
that's gray

948
00:39:22,910 --> 00:39:21,119
um we believe that's him on the top

949
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:22,920
um of the picture that we got at the

950
00:39:29,290 --> 00:39:26,400
chicken coop um he's the tallest one so

951
00:39:32,329 --> 00:39:29,300
I think he's the you know the the male

952
00:39:34,609 --> 00:39:32,339
you know the alpha male the alpha male

953
00:39:36,829 --> 00:39:34,619
thank you yeah the alpha male yeah

954
00:39:38,690 --> 00:39:36,839
um but as soon as she said gray you know

955
00:39:40,190 --> 00:39:38,700
he has a gray fur coat on we knew that

956
00:39:42,290 --> 00:39:40,200
was Mr Gray because we we've caught

957
00:39:43,849 --> 00:39:42,300
glimpses of him before

958
00:39:46,430 --> 00:39:43,859
um but only for a second I mean

959
00:39:48,829 --> 00:39:46,440
literally when you see these things

960
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:48,839
they they whether they can you know

961
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:50,640
we've looked up other people believe

962
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:53,040
they can cloak themselves or they move

963
00:39:56,750 --> 00:39:55,200
through portals we don't know we just

964
00:39:58,970 --> 00:39:56,760
know that you see them for a split

965
00:40:00,890 --> 00:39:58,980
second most times they're surprised that

966
00:40:03,650 --> 00:40:00,900
you're able to see them as well as they

967
00:40:05,690 --> 00:40:03,660
can see you and then they just they they

968
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:05,700
vanish I mean they'll vanish right in

969
00:40:08,450 --> 00:40:06,960
front of your eyes

970
00:40:13,790 --> 00:40:08,460
so

971
00:40:15,290 --> 00:40:13,800
um you know Mr Gray and they had wanted

972
00:40:16,910 --> 00:40:15,300
to go next door because there were

973
00:40:19,609 --> 00:40:16,920
triplets born

974
00:40:21,410 --> 00:40:19,619
um and with the farmer and he you know

975
00:40:24,109 --> 00:40:21,420
that's very rare so the kids of course

976
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:24,119
want to just go see the baby cows so as

977
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:25,920
we were going across

978
00:40:30,770 --> 00:40:27,839
um our driveway to our neighbor's house

979
00:40:34,310 --> 00:40:30,780
we started hearing something walking in

980
00:40:35,690 --> 00:40:34,320
leaves and Annette said you know hey

981
00:40:37,849 --> 00:40:35,700
there's that's there's your weird

982
00:40:41,290 --> 00:40:37,859
neighbor again and that's when I said

983
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:41,300
well maybe I should tell you we kind of

984
00:40:46,190 --> 00:40:43,920
hang on here

985
00:40:49,010 --> 00:40:46,200
um so I was I was very quiet when I was

986
00:40:51,050 --> 00:40:49,020
telling her Greg was in front and

987
00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:51,060
um the two kids were kind of in between

988
00:40:56,690 --> 00:40:54,420
us and I I just said to her I said um

989
00:40:58,490 --> 00:40:56,700
you know you know we have this creature

990
00:41:00,050 --> 00:40:58,500
that we thinks comes and we don't know

991
00:41:01,550 --> 00:41:00,060
what it is I didn't want to scare the

992
00:41:04,310 --> 00:41:01,560
kids I didn't think the kids even heard

993
00:41:05,930 --> 00:41:04,320
me and then her son came back to us and

994
00:41:08,510 --> 00:41:05,940
goes I know what it is and he put his

995
00:41:10,130 --> 00:41:08,520
hands on his hips and I said well what

996
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:10,140
do you think it is and he goes it's a

997
00:41:15,770 --> 00:41:14,220
wolf man it's a werewolf and I went what

998
00:41:17,089 --> 00:41:15,780
do you mean and then I'm trying to play

999
00:41:18,770 --> 00:41:17,099
it off I'm like you know I don't want

1000
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:18,780
people to be scared of

1001
00:41:25,069 --> 00:41:23,040
you know of people in in my yard you

1002
00:41:27,290 --> 00:41:25,079
know or not want to come to my house and

1003
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:27,300
so I kind of played it off and said

1004
00:41:30,890 --> 00:41:29,040
there's no such thing as werewolves and

1005
00:41:33,650 --> 00:41:30,900
then the little girl comes up and goes

1006
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:33,660
uh-huh uh-huh I saw it too

1007
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,520
so I said well what do you mean what

1008
00:41:38,510 --> 00:41:37,200
kind of werewolves you know what do you

1009
00:41:40,010 --> 00:41:38,520
what do you think it is how do you know

1010
00:41:42,589 --> 00:41:40,020
it's a werewolf and she goes because I

1011
00:41:46,250 --> 00:41:42,599
saw its teeth and it has big teeth

1012
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:46,260
and it you know and so yeah so we made

1013
00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:48,480
the you know made the trip to the barn

1014
00:41:52,430 --> 00:41:50,160
very quickly

1015
00:41:54,109 --> 00:41:52,440
um and came back home and had to help

1016
00:41:56,030 --> 00:41:54,119
them into their car because they didn't

1017
00:41:59,170 --> 00:41:56,040
want to go back side back outside once

1018
00:42:02,270 --> 00:41:59,180
it was really really dark outside so

1019
00:42:03,890 --> 00:42:02,280
uh I I got a question from Nancy Malcolm

1020
00:42:05,870 --> 00:42:03,900
who she wanted to know how many of these

1021
00:42:09,890 --> 00:42:05,880
creatures have you ever seen together

1022
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:14,450
you want to answer that putting together

1023
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:16,970
I ca I can't go ahead well what do you

1024
00:42:21,530 --> 00:42:19,280
mean together so both of us

1025
00:42:22,970 --> 00:42:21,540
know them together the creatures

1026
00:42:26,329 --> 00:42:22,980
together

1027
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:26,339
so the thing is we've only seen one at a

1028
00:42:32,690 --> 00:42:29,520
time most times right but we know there

1029
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:32,700
are multiple ones out there because I

1030
00:42:37,550 --> 00:42:35,040
mean this is silly to talk about but um

1031
00:42:39,170 --> 00:42:37,560
when it first started we were very we

1032
00:42:42,349 --> 00:42:39,180
were afraid we didn't know what was out

1033
00:42:44,510 --> 00:42:42,359
in our yard so we would go out with guns

1034
00:42:46,010 --> 00:42:44,520
once the pounding started on our in our

1035
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:46,020
house and we would go out and we would

1036
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:47,520
walk around a whole neighborhood you

1037
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:50,880
know I mean our whole yard and we would

1038
00:42:55,310 --> 00:42:53,280
like Greg had said earlier we would hear

1039
00:42:56,810 --> 00:42:55,320
one in front of us we would hear one to

1040
00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:56,820
the right of us we would hear one to the

1041
00:43:00,890 --> 00:42:58,800
left of us and we were like well either

1042
00:43:05,870 --> 00:43:00,900
this thing flies or we have more than

1043
00:43:08,329 --> 00:43:05,880
one so I I have heard up to five

1044
00:43:11,210 --> 00:43:08,339
um at one time

1045
00:43:13,490 --> 00:43:11,220
um in fact just a few months ago and we

1046
00:43:15,530 --> 00:43:13,500
can talk about that incident later

1047
00:43:17,690 --> 00:43:15,540
um when we got our puppy

1048
00:43:19,730 --> 00:43:17,700
um there were five I I felt the presence

1049
00:43:21,170 --> 00:43:19,740
of five of them at the same time and

1050
00:43:23,329 --> 00:43:21,180
then what do you think

1051
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:23,339
well we had actually

1052
00:43:28,670 --> 00:43:26,640
um we kind of bumped into a few uh

1053
00:43:30,650 --> 00:43:28,680
friends that

1054
00:43:33,170 --> 00:43:30,660
um Cara give you their names but we're

1055
00:43:36,109 --> 00:43:33,180
kind of working with them and

1056
00:43:38,109 --> 00:43:36,119
up in uh Hocking Hills Richard and he's

1057
00:43:40,670 --> 00:43:38,119
kind of given us some feedback about him

1058
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:40,680
and uh you know he kind of let us know

1059
00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:42,960
that there there's usually packs of what

1060
00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:46,440
five to seven five to seven um and then

1061
00:43:48,890 --> 00:43:48,180
there's an alpha

1062
00:43:52,250 --> 00:43:48,900
um

1063
00:43:55,370 --> 00:43:52,260
the one that I saw was extremely fast it

1064
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:55,380
was a blink and and the dogs the dogs

1065
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:57,119
hear them before they see them and I'm

1066
00:44:01,550 --> 00:43:59,520
not even sure if the dogs can actually

1067
00:44:03,470 --> 00:44:01,560
see him but boy that they sure know when

1068
00:44:06,109 --> 00:44:03,480
when they're around because they won't

1069
00:44:08,089 --> 00:44:06,119
they won't leave

1070
00:44:09,650 --> 00:44:08,099
which is probably a good thing because

1071
00:44:12,170 --> 00:44:09,660
then they don't eat them well you're

1072
00:44:14,809 --> 00:44:12,180
talking about a 80 pound German Shepherd

1073
00:44:16,730 --> 00:44:14,819
who's fast as Lightning he's terrified

1074
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:16,740
so yeah it's

1075
00:44:22,430 --> 00:44:18,480
pretty wild but no I haven't really seen

1076
00:44:25,069 --> 00:44:22,440
any together we we've just heard

1077
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:25,079
um multiple almost like they're flanking

1078
00:44:30,290 --> 00:44:26,880
us which is is probably the creepiest

1079
00:44:32,750 --> 00:44:30,300
part you know yeah it's what it sounds

1080
00:44:34,730 --> 00:44:32,760
like yeah it's almost like you know that

1081
00:44:37,550 --> 00:44:34,740
movie Jurassic the first Jurassic Park

1082
00:44:40,490 --> 00:44:37,560
where they talk about the Raptors and

1083
00:44:42,170 --> 00:44:40,500
how the one Raptor is is in front and

1084
00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:42,180
it's making all that noise and then the

1085
00:44:46,190 --> 00:44:44,220
other two come from the sides that's it

1086
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:46,200
when I first noticed that they were kind

1087
00:44:50,690 --> 00:44:48,000
of doing that that's what I thought of

1088
00:44:52,490 --> 00:44:50,700
right that you know what this is their

1089
00:44:54,770 --> 00:44:52,500
hunting technique This Is How They drag

1090
00:44:57,290 --> 00:44:54,780
down prey and you know and then that's

1091
00:44:59,630 --> 00:44:57,300
when we decided we weren't going outside

1092
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:59,640
anymore and we're just gonna let them

1093
00:45:02,990 --> 00:45:01,680
bang on the house because it seemed like

1094
00:45:03,950 --> 00:45:03,000
that's how they were trying to get our

1095
00:45:06,190 --> 00:45:03,960
attention

1096
00:45:10,430 --> 00:45:06,200
you know what I mean

1097
00:45:12,890 --> 00:45:10,440
you got anything oh

1098
00:45:14,930 --> 00:45:12,900
um I'm just actually just taking it all

1099
00:45:16,910 --> 00:45:14,940
in I think that

1100
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:16,920
the fact that you know the kids were

1101
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:19,440
able to you know get that close to see

1102
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:23,040
its teeth is amazing I mean

1103
00:45:28,370 --> 00:45:25,440
you know

1104
00:45:35,410 --> 00:45:31,550
I I think that there's a lot going on

1105
00:45:38,589 --> 00:45:35,420
at your place that it's just yeah

1106
00:45:41,690 --> 00:45:38,599
I imagine gentle you Bernadette's also

1107
00:45:42,349 --> 00:45:41,700
uh intuitive and

1108
00:45:44,329 --> 00:45:42,359
um

1109
00:45:47,210 --> 00:45:44,339
so how do I mean did you ever try to

1110
00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:48,890
um yeah actually

1111
00:45:52,970 --> 00:45:51,180
um Lon thank you for having I'm sorry

1112
00:45:55,069 --> 00:45:52,980
that Jennifer couldn't be on tonight but

1113
00:45:56,930 --> 00:45:55,079
thank you for you know putting us in

1114
00:45:59,569 --> 00:45:56,940
contact because I still talk to her I

1115
00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:59,579
mean we talk a couple times a week

1116
00:46:04,670 --> 00:46:01,440
um she's been fabulous

1117
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:04,680
um yeah um she well

1118
00:46:08,270 --> 00:46:06,720
our first communication I don't know if

1119
00:46:09,890 --> 00:46:08,280
you remember because I called you and I

1120
00:46:12,109 --> 00:46:09,900
was like what the heck

1121
00:46:15,710 --> 00:46:12,119
um the very first thing she said to me

1122
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:15,720
was do not try and communicate with the

1123
00:46:20,290 --> 00:46:17,520
dog man because they want nothing other

1124
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:20,300
than to eviscerate you

1125
00:46:26,690 --> 00:46:24,000
and so that kind of stopped me from

1126
00:46:29,150 --> 00:46:26,700
going forward with trying to communicate

1127
00:46:31,609 --> 00:46:29,160
with them but then her and I had some

1128
00:46:33,170 --> 00:46:31,619
conversations and I said I I'm gonna

1129
00:46:35,450 --> 00:46:33,180
have to you know the one thing about

1130
00:46:37,849 --> 00:46:35,460
Jennifer is you can you can you know

1131
00:46:40,849 --> 00:46:37,859
have a difference of opinion and she can

1132
00:46:43,069 --> 00:46:40,859
um you know she appreciates that and um

1133
00:46:45,290 --> 00:46:43,079
so we agreed to disagree because I said

1134
00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:45,300
you know these creatures could have

1135
00:46:50,450 --> 00:46:47,400
killed me and my husband a thousand

1136
00:46:52,130 --> 00:46:50,460
times in the last 10 years and they have

1137
00:46:54,109 --> 00:46:52,140
not they have not harmed our dogs

1138
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:54,119
they've scared us

1139
00:46:58,250 --> 00:46:56,640
um and and quite honestly they've done

1140
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:58,260
some things that make me believe that

1141
00:47:02,690 --> 00:47:00,960
they have a sense of humor and I can

1142
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:02,700
tell you about that the October story if

1143
00:47:07,970 --> 00:47:04,560
you want later on yeah

1144
00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:07,980
um but uh yeah so

1145
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:09,599
um

1146
00:47:16,609 --> 00:47:12,000
so I I just I just agreed to disagree

1147
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:16,619
with her so we we have started recently

1148
00:47:21,410 --> 00:47:18,960
um some active communication

1149
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:21,420
and I think that came from Mostly when

1150
00:47:24,770 --> 00:47:23,520
we got our new dog Ripley

1151
00:47:29,210 --> 00:47:24,780
um we have a

1152
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:29,220
um a new Rottweiler puppy and um

1153
00:47:33,650 --> 00:47:31,680
probably about a week a week and a half

1154
00:47:35,329 --> 00:47:33,660
into having Ripley maybe a little bit

1155
00:47:36,109 --> 00:47:35,339
longer

1156
00:47:38,690 --> 00:47:36,119
um

1157
00:47:40,130 --> 00:47:38,700
I I wondered how she would you know how

1158
00:47:42,890 --> 00:47:40,140
they would accept her as part of our

1159
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:42,900
pack so to speak so

1160
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:45,599
um one night it was about maybe I think

1161
00:47:50,270 --> 00:47:48,480
it was about 12 30 at night I she got me

1162
00:47:52,670 --> 00:47:50,280
up because she had to go outside you

1163
00:47:54,530 --> 00:47:52,680
know how puppies are so we went outside

1164
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:54,540
I had my little headlamp on and

1165
00:47:58,609 --> 00:47:56,640
everything and I had her out outside

1166
00:48:00,770 --> 00:47:58,619
didn't turn on the headlamp and I just

1167
00:48:02,329 --> 00:48:00,780
heard three of them immediately as soon

1168
00:48:05,210 --> 00:48:02,339
as we walked out the door

1169
00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:05,220
and I heard one directly in front of me

1170
00:48:09,290 --> 00:48:07,020
and two to the right of me and they were

1171
00:48:11,930 --> 00:48:09,300
all in the tree lines and they were

1172
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:11,940
making such a racket I mean I had not

1173
00:48:17,150 --> 00:48:13,920
heard them make this kind of a Ruckus in

1174
00:48:19,730 --> 00:48:17,160
a long time they were stomping they were

1175
00:48:22,010 --> 00:48:19,740
snorting they were and then they started

1176
00:48:25,069 --> 00:48:22,020
making this weird noise this weird weird

1177
00:48:27,050 --> 00:48:25,079
growling noise and I'm literally

1178
00:48:28,910 --> 00:48:27,060
standing right next to Ripley while

1179
00:48:30,650 --> 00:48:28,920
she's doing her business

1180
00:48:33,410 --> 00:48:30,660
you know kind of praying that she would

1181
00:48:35,450 --> 00:48:33,420
hurry up because I didn't know if they

1182
00:48:38,569 --> 00:48:35,460
wanted to eat her or what was going on

1183
00:48:41,569 --> 00:48:38,579
so um I got her back in the house as

1184
00:48:42,609 --> 00:48:41,579
soon as I can I ran I ran back out with

1185
00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:42,619
my video

1186
00:48:47,390 --> 00:48:45,240
with my phone to take some audio and

1187
00:48:49,970 --> 00:48:47,400
some video and

1188
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:49,980
um unfortunately with where we're at

1189
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:52,079
with the traffic going by even at that

1190
00:48:55,849 --> 00:48:53,520
night because we're in between two high

1191
00:48:57,890 --> 00:48:55,859
Rays you couldn't make anything out but

1192
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:57,900
the growling sound that they all three

1193
00:49:02,930 --> 00:49:00,839
started making was I knew I had heard it

1194
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:02,940
before I couldn't figure out what it was

1195
00:49:07,130 --> 00:49:05,520
I'm like are they because they mimic

1196
00:49:09,950 --> 00:49:07,140
things I don't know if we said this

1197
00:49:13,130 --> 00:49:09,960
already they tend to mimic other animals

1198
00:49:15,230 --> 00:49:13,140
sometimes owls sometimes coyotes but you

1199
00:49:17,150 --> 00:49:15,240
can always tell by the tone that it's

1200
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:17,160
not them the animal that they're

1201
00:49:20,089 --> 00:49:18,480
mimicking

1202
00:49:22,510 --> 00:49:20,099
um and I do believe that they use that

1203
00:49:25,790 --> 00:49:22,520
to draw in other animals as prey

1204
00:49:27,650 --> 00:49:25,800
especially dogs right

1205
00:49:29,450 --> 00:49:27,660
um and you and I learned and Bernadette

1206
00:49:32,270 --> 00:49:29,460
we talked about this earlier I I think

1207
00:49:34,550 --> 00:49:32,280
that's why they they gravitate and they

1208
00:49:36,770 --> 00:49:34,560
are not like Bigfoot but they come

1209
00:49:38,510 --> 00:49:36,780
around humans because they know that

1210
00:49:41,210 --> 00:49:38,520
they've got some ample prey with us

1211
00:49:44,270 --> 00:49:41,220
because we have dogs and we have cats

1212
00:49:46,849 --> 00:49:44,280
right and so they have a little snack

1213
00:49:49,130 --> 00:49:46,859
you know by coming around us

1214
00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:49,140
um but anyway so

1215
00:49:55,250 --> 00:49:50,760
um

1216
00:49:58,069 --> 00:49:55,260
I I ended up going back to bed and I

1217
00:50:00,290 --> 00:49:58,079
literally sat up at 4am and my brain

1218
00:50:02,410 --> 00:50:00,300
wouldn't shut it off and kind of when I

1219
00:50:06,130 --> 00:50:02,420
was half asleep it finally came to me

1220
00:50:08,930 --> 00:50:06,140
and what it was was they were mimicking

1221
00:50:11,150 --> 00:50:08,940
Ripley's play sounds

1222
00:50:12,770 --> 00:50:11,160
when she played with us you know as a

1223
00:50:14,450 --> 00:50:12,780
puppy they make growling sounds when

1224
00:50:15,950 --> 00:50:14,460
they're tugging on things and it was

1225
00:50:18,170 --> 00:50:15,960
almost identical

1226
00:50:21,410 --> 00:50:18,180
to the sounds that she makes

1227
00:50:23,210 --> 00:50:21,420
and I was just like I I literally got up

1228
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:23,220
at six o'clock and called I think I

1229
00:50:27,470 --> 00:50:25,200
called Jennifer she couldn't call me

1230
00:50:29,870 --> 00:50:27,480
back until later and I said what is

1231
00:50:31,730 --> 00:50:29,880
going on why are they making why are

1232
00:50:34,970 --> 00:50:31,740
they mimicking our puppy

1233
00:50:36,349 --> 00:50:34,980
and Jennifer says she reached out to him

1234
00:50:39,770 --> 00:50:36,359
um because she you know you guys know

1235
00:50:41,210 --> 00:50:39,780
she's a medium and um she says well

1236
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:41,220
they're very angry with you right now

1237
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:43,680
Carrie and I said what do you mean and

1238
00:50:47,569 --> 00:50:45,359
she goes you haven't introduced her as

1239
00:50:51,650 --> 00:50:47,579
part of your pack

1240
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:51,660
and I went what is that a thing should I

1241
00:50:56,690 --> 00:50:54,000
do that so I she talked me through how

1242
00:50:57,710 --> 00:50:56,700
to do it I did that immediately that

1243
00:51:01,130 --> 00:50:57,720
same day

1244
00:51:03,530 --> 00:51:01,140
I literally walked Ripley up and you

1245
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:03,540
know through my mind

1246
00:51:09,410 --> 00:51:07,200
you know said to them you know I want

1247
00:51:11,690 --> 00:51:09,420
you guys to meet Ripley she's a new

1248
00:51:15,049 --> 00:51:11,700
member of our pack you are not to hurt

1249
00:51:17,690 --> 00:51:15,059
her you are not to harm her

1250
00:51:19,370 --> 00:51:17,700
um you know so basically I just wanted

1251
00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:19,380
to let you know and I did that I walked

1252
00:51:23,630 --> 00:51:21,000
around the whole perimeter of our yard

1253
00:51:26,510 --> 00:51:23,640
so that they knew that she was out of

1254
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:26,520
bounds for them and I asked them for

1255
00:51:30,890 --> 00:51:28,800
sign if they would give me a sign that

1256
00:51:33,530 --> 00:51:30,900
they had had heard me and understood and

1257
00:51:36,650 --> 00:51:33,540
understood what I was saying so the next

1258
00:51:38,210 --> 00:51:36,660
morning I went up and I looked for the

1259
00:51:39,890 --> 00:51:38,220
sign that I knew that they would leave

1260
00:51:41,569 --> 00:51:39,900
me because anytime I asked him to leave

1261
00:51:43,309 --> 00:51:41,579
me a sign they generally do and it's

1262
00:51:44,569 --> 00:51:43,319
generally rocks they they like to talk

1263
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:44,579
with rocks

1264
00:51:50,809 --> 00:51:48,720
and um up by where we we always see Mr

1265
00:51:52,970 --> 00:51:50,819
Gray up in the area where we have the

1266
00:51:55,130 --> 00:51:52,980
most activity there was a large Rock in

1267
00:51:56,930 --> 00:51:55,140
the middle of the yard I did take

1268
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,940
pictures of it but I forgot to send it

1269
00:52:00,349 --> 00:51:58,559
to you guys

1270
00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:00,359
um and I know that that rock was not

1271
00:52:04,430 --> 00:52:01,920
there the day before because my husband

1272
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:04,440
had just mowed the grass and if if he

1273
00:52:09,230 --> 00:52:07,440
had mowed the grass uh I you know a rock

1274
00:52:12,890 --> 00:52:09,240
that large would have actually ruined

1275
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:12,900
our mower so um but yeah I mean I've

1276
00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:14,400
been communicating with them I've been

1277
00:52:19,309 --> 00:52:16,319
trying to communicate with them

1278
00:52:21,049 --> 00:52:19,319
and uh you know the first thing we did

1279
00:52:22,970 --> 00:52:21,059
you know that Jennifer helped me with

1280
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:22,980
was setting the boundaries letting them

1281
00:52:27,710 --> 00:52:25,680
know that this is our house and you

1282
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:27,720
don't hurt anybody in this house and you

1283
00:52:32,450 --> 00:52:30,480
you know and that kind of thing

1284
00:52:34,730 --> 00:52:32,460
um one of the weird things that really

1285
00:52:36,589 --> 00:52:34,740
happened to me with the communication

1286
00:52:38,569 --> 00:52:36,599
thing because I'm new to this you know

1287
00:52:41,390 --> 00:52:38,579
Jen's trying to teach me things I am

1288
00:52:44,210 --> 00:52:41,400
very sensitive I do have some kind of

1289
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:44,220
you know she says some kind of medium

1290
00:52:49,730 --> 00:52:47,520
um capabilities but not a lot that I've

1291
00:52:51,890 --> 00:52:49,740
worked with y'all just the sensitivity

1292
00:52:54,650 --> 00:52:51,900
to things and

1293
00:52:56,329 --> 00:52:54,660
um I I will do the things that she tells

1294
00:52:59,089 --> 00:52:56,339
me to do and and speak to them

1295
00:53:00,650 --> 00:52:59,099
telepathically if I can and I know that

1296
00:53:02,210 --> 00:53:00,660
sounds crazy but I mean it's the only

1297
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:02,220
thing I've gotta you know they don't

1298
00:53:07,130 --> 00:53:03,839
stand in front of me I can't talk to

1299
00:53:09,710 --> 00:53:07,140
them right so during this one like two

1300
00:53:11,569 --> 00:53:09,720
week period I was like okay I need to

1301
00:53:13,609 --> 00:53:11,579
know are you friend or Foe you know are

1302
00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:13,619
you here to eat me or you want to learn

1303
00:53:18,589 --> 00:53:16,079
from me or you know what's going on so

1304
00:53:20,809 --> 00:53:18,599
one Monday I was like half asleep I was

1305
00:53:23,569 --> 00:53:20,819
just drifting off and this this was very

1306
00:53:27,530 --> 00:53:23,579
impactful for me because in my mind I

1307
00:53:33,710 --> 00:53:30,410
and since then I have not been afraid of

1308
00:53:35,470 --> 00:53:33,720
them is that right yes

1309
00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:35,480
yep

1310
00:53:43,609 --> 00:53:40,319
go ahead Greg yeah I am oh I know you

1311
00:53:47,770 --> 00:53:43,619
are that would be too yeah yeah I'm not

1312
00:53:51,010 --> 00:53:47,780
kidding I am friends in my dreams

1313
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:51,020
that's because he sleeps like rock

1314
00:53:57,470 --> 00:53:54,240
well let me ask you this I know recently

1315
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:57,480
there's been a development uh you think

1316
00:54:02,809 --> 00:53:59,760
since uh they're considering you a

1317
00:54:07,010 --> 00:54:02,819
friend they allowed you to see their

1318
00:54:09,170 --> 00:54:07,020
puppies yes yes because all of this is

1319
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:09,180
coming up probably in the last three or

1320
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:11,520
four months right

1321
00:54:17,150 --> 00:54:14,880
um they do have pups I'm 100 well

1322
00:54:19,609 --> 00:54:17,160
Jennifer and I have worked with that um

1323
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:19,619
she's reached out to them I didn't get

1324
00:54:23,089 --> 00:54:21,599
an answer when I did

1325
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:23,099
um they do not like them being called

1326
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:25,200
pups

1327
00:54:28,190 --> 00:54:26,880
um because they don't like it being

1328
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:28,200
annotated

1329
00:54:34,190 --> 00:54:31,680
for our our dogs

1330
00:54:38,329 --> 00:54:34,200
um they don't like dogs very much

1331
00:54:42,049 --> 00:54:38,339
um and um so

1332
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:42,059
Greg and I I have I had been hearing a

1333
00:54:46,130 --> 00:54:44,160
couple times off in the woods

1334
00:54:48,349 --> 00:54:46,140
probably I would guess about a half a

1335
00:54:50,569 --> 00:54:48,359
mile away Yips and Yelps and all these

1336
00:54:52,670 --> 00:54:50,579
weird things and and

1337
00:54:54,650 --> 00:54:52,680
um I actually we actually got a um

1338
00:54:57,410 --> 00:54:54,660
parabolic and

1339
00:54:59,930 --> 00:54:57,420
um a night vision binoculars so that we

1340
00:55:02,030 --> 00:54:59,940
could see things outside

1341
00:55:04,190 --> 00:55:02,040
um so before the parabolic came I was

1342
00:55:06,290 --> 00:55:04,200
hearing these things and I said that's

1343
00:55:08,450 --> 00:55:06,300
not coyotes that's not that's not

1344
00:55:10,490 --> 00:55:08,460
neighborhood dogs they were it sounded

1345
00:55:12,290 --> 00:55:10,500
like there was a lot a lot of them and

1346
00:55:14,930 --> 00:55:12,300
they were young um you know I said those

1347
00:55:19,010 --> 00:55:14,940
sounds like like Offspring Young

1348
00:55:21,230 --> 00:55:19,020
puppies right so

1349
00:55:23,089 --> 00:55:21,240
um the next time I heard it I actually

1350
00:55:24,829 --> 00:55:23,099
brought Greg outside you want to talk

1351
00:55:28,250 --> 00:55:24,839
about that what you

1352
00:55:29,930 --> 00:55:28,260
yeah it was it was it was definitely uh

1353
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:29,940
more than one

1354
00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:32,880
canine type howling going on but it was

1355
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:35,520
it was pretty high pitched

1356
00:55:40,130 --> 00:55:37,440
um I'm sure other people around us had

1357
00:55:45,049 --> 00:55:40,140
to hear it too so

1358
00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:45,059
um it didn't last too long I'd say three

1359
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:46,800
to four minutes

1360
00:55:51,170 --> 00:55:49,200
so but it was pretty loud and it was it

1361
00:55:53,150 --> 00:55:51,180
was pretty close I'd say what do you

1362
00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:53,160
think half mile half a mile a quarter

1363
00:56:00,349 --> 00:55:56,400
mile at the most we've got a good 20

1364
00:56:02,690 --> 00:56:00,359
acre patch almost like caddy corner to

1365
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:02,700
our backyard it's got a lot of fields

1366
00:56:07,370 --> 00:56:05,040
and we're pretty sure that that's where

1367
00:56:09,230 --> 00:56:07,380
a lot of activity and a lot of stuff

1368
00:56:11,329 --> 00:56:09,240
goes on so

1369
00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:11,339
we definitely that was more than one

1370
00:56:15,049 --> 00:56:13,380
night that was three nights three nights

1371
00:56:16,970 --> 00:56:15,059
that we heard it and I and I I right

1372
00:56:19,010 --> 00:56:16,980
away I said they have they have

1373
00:56:22,430 --> 00:56:19,020
Offspring that's a layer they're out

1374
00:56:24,109 --> 00:56:22,440
there whether Mom or Dad is you know the

1375
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:24,119
alpha males bringing home some meat and

1376
00:56:26,930 --> 00:56:25,440
they're really happy and they're eating

1377
00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:26,940
you know something's going on out there

1378
00:56:31,370 --> 00:56:29,040
because it did not sound like natural

1379
00:56:32,030 --> 00:56:31,380
noises that we hear around here all the

1380
00:56:34,970 --> 00:56:32,040
time

1381
00:56:36,849 --> 00:56:34,980
yes have your have your neighbors ever

1382
00:56:38,569 --> 00:56:36,859
commented about this

1383
00:56:40,670 --> 00:56:38,579
well

1384
00:56:42,650 --> 00:56:40,680
okay so this is the first time we've

1385
00:56:44,510 --> 00:56:42,660
ever really come out other than you know

1386
00:56:47,690 --> 00:56:44,520
I know yeah

1387
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:47,700
so I don't know how people would take

1388
00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:51,359
this I I'm I'm pretty much I'm really

1389
00:56:55,549 --> 00:56:53,280
sure that our neighbors have had some

1390
00:56:58,190 --> 00:56:55,559
experiences because they all have big

1391
00:57:01,130 --> 00:56:58,200
bright lights on and our one neighbor up

1392
00:57:02,930 --> 00:57:01,140
above from us up on the hill they don't

1393
00:57:04,309 --> 00:57:02,940
let their dog out unless it's on a leash

1394
00:57:06,770 --> 00:57:04,319
and they walk it around to go to the

1395
00:57:08,750 --> 00:57:06,780
bathroom so in in the country that's

1396
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:08,760
kind of unheard of

1397
00:57:13,010 --> 00:57:11,040
um so I'm pretty sure that other people

1398
00:57:15,530 --> 00:57:13,020
have had it I just have not had the

1399
00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:15,540
courage to go up and say hey have you

1400
00:57:20,809 --> 00:57:18,720
had a dog man in your backyard no well

1401
00:57:22,730 --> 00:57:20,819
how do you bring it up that's that's how

1402
00:57:24,829 --> 00:57:22,740
you know for any experience or how do

1403
00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:24,839
you bring it up you don't talk about it

1404
00:57:29,870 --> 00:57:27,119
that's the thing you know

1405
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:29,880
because because one of their main you

1406
00:57:34,010 --> 00:57:32,640
know you know great company who have had

1407
00:57:37,069 --> 00:57:34,020
the experiences

1408
00:57:38,930 --> 00:57:37,079
yeah you know well and and it it hasn't

1409
00:57:40,430 --> 00:57:38,940
been until recently until I reached out

1410
00:57:42,650 --> 00:57:40,440
to lawn

1411
00:57:44,510 --> 00:57:42,660
um until we found you know we're also

1412
00:57:45,530 --> 00:57:44,520
working with another group

1413
00:57:50,210 --> 00:57:45,540
um

1414
00:57:52,370 --> 00:57:50,220
Richard mcclanish

1415
00:57:53,690 --> 00:57:52,380
um he's in Hocking Hills in a campground

1416
00:57:55,370 --> 00:57:53,700
that we are and he's I don't know if

1417
00:57:57,290 --> 00:57:55,380
you've ever heard of him but he's been a

1418
00:57:59,569 --> 00:57:57,300
Bigfoot hunter for you know well

1419
00:58:01,849 --> 00:57:59,579
researcher he's not a hunter

1420
00:58:03,890 --> 00:58:01,859
um for 50 years and just sitting down

1421
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:03,900
with Richard for like 20 minutes I was

1422
00:58:08,030 --> 00:58:05,520
like well our encounters aren't nothing

1423
00:58:09,650 --> 00:58:08,040
compared to what he's been through you

1424
00:58:11,690 --> 00:58:09,660
know he's just got a plethora of

1425
00:58:12,890 --> 00:58:11,700
information and I just love being around

1426
00:58:14,809 --> 00:58:12,900
him

1427
00:58:17,630 --> 00:58:14,819
um but he put together a team and

1428
00:58:21,950 --> 00:58:17,640
they're doing a uh a documentary David

1429
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:21,960
Wolfe is the um the movie producer and

1430
00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:24,240
um his website is exposing the strange

1431
00:58:28,250 --> 00:58:26,400
and we've been on a couple we've been on

1432
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:28,260
at least one you know hike with them and

1433
00:58:32,450 --> 00:58:30,240
and we found some really cool Bigfoot

1434
00:58:33,950 --> 00:58:32,460
stuff with them which was really neat my

1435
00:58:37,630 --> 00:58:33,960
daughter found some Bigfoot footprint

1436
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:37,640
it's going up a a cliff basically

1437
00:58:41,870 --> 00:58:40,319
and then we have Todd polling as a part

1438
00:58:43,370 --> 00:58:41,880
of our group who is a wildlife

1439
00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:43,380
photographer and he's the one who

1440
00:58:48,589 --> 00:58:46,559
actually cleaned up our pictures of the

1441
00:58:50,990 --> 00:58:48,599
dogmen on our roof so that we could

1442
00:58:53,569 --> 00:58:51,000
actually see that yes that is a dog face

1443
00:58:56,089 --> 00:58:53,579
on there and it's not just leaves he did

1444
00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:56,099
an awesome job for that so you know

1445
00:59:00,049 --> 00:58:58,559
working with you and Jennifer and and

1446
00:59:01,670 --> 00:59:00,059
you know hopefully someday you know

1447
00:59:03,349 --> 00:59:01,680
Bernadette

1448
00:59:04,730 --> 00:59:03,359
um you know they're gonna come out they

1449
00:59:06,650 --> 00:59:04,740
all want to come out and they want to do

1450
00:59:08,270 --> 00:59:06,660
an investigation so we've we've been

1451
00:59:10,910 --> 00:59:08,280
doing a lot of you know that kind of

1452
00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:10,920
stuff and you know by meeting all of you

1453
00:59:15,890 --> 00:59:13,680
guys you guys have actually gotten given

1454
00:59:17,569 --> 00:59:15,900
us the strength to come out and tell our

1455
00:59:19,970 --> 00:59:17,579
story versus just hiding it because

1456
00:59:22,670 --> 00:59:19,980
we've hit it for 12 years we don't want

1457
00:59:24,289 --> 00:59:22,680
people to think we're crazy but how do

1458
00:59:26,809 --> 00:59:24,299
you explain something like this it

1459
00:59:29,150 --> 00:59:26,819
doesn't I hear that all the time I mean

1460
00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:29,160
you know people are don't want to be

1461
00:59:33,170 --> 00:59:30,480
ridiculed they don't want to be

1462
00:59:34,010 --> 00:59:33,180
questioned and I get that

1463
00:59:37,309 --> 00:59:34,020
um

1464
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:37,319
I do have a couple questions here

1465
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:40,559
um first of all I I know you initially

1466
00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:43,920
contacted Linda Godfrey back in when

1467
00:59:49,730 --> 00:59:46,319
this started and I know part of this

1468
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:49,740
story was some of it was put in a book

1469
00:59:53,089 --> 00:59:51,359
about your son's encounter I think

1470
00:59:54,650 --> 00:59:53,099
mostly

1471
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:54,660
um

1472
00:59:59,089 --> 00:59:57,119
and I I did go back and looked but I did

1473
01:00:02,270 --> 00:59:59,099
find it but you didn't hear anything

1474
01:00:03,950 --> 01:00:02,280
else from her since then did you no she

1475
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:03,960
was supposed to be coming out with a

1476
01:00:10,730 --> 01:00:07,680
crew unfortunately her health took a bit

1477
01:00:12,349 --> 01:00:10,740
of a turn yeah and she was never able to

1478
01:00:13,970 --> 01:00:12,359
come out which was you know and then

1479
01:00:15,650 --> 01:00:13,980
after that I just

1480
01:00:18,650 --> 01:00:15,660
I mean who do you talk to about this

1481
01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:18,660
right right you know I

1482
01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:20,880
well I'm glad you got a hold of me I

1483
01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:23,280
mean you know that was absolutely I mean

1484
01:00:27,789 --> 01:00:25,920
I'm glad you did I I do have a couple of

1485
01:00:31,130 --> 01:00:27,799
other questions though and people are

1486
01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:31,140
throwing questions at me uh but there is

1487
01:00:35,690 --> 01:00:32,640
one here it's very interesting from

1488
01:00:38,030 --> 01:00:35,700
Wolfman 46. do you live near any

1489
01:00:40,609 --> 01:00:38,040
cemeteries or Mounds

1490
01:00:43,309 --> 01:00:40,619
you know that's funny because Richard

1491
01:00:45,410 --> 01:00:43,319
asked us the same thing did he and I did

1492
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:45,420
get the history behind that

1493
01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:48,960
um we have some really older parts of

1494
01:00:53,870 --> 01:00:51,839
the city that we live in that there are

1495
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:53,880
some older cemeteries I don't know about

1496
01:00:57,470 --> 01:00:55,440
Mounds

1497
01:00:59,390 --> 01:00:57,480
um so I've been doing since he said that

1498
01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:59,400
he said that the dogmen were looking for

1499
01:01:02,630 --> 01:01:01,200
something and he was telling us about

1500
01:01:06,349 --> 01:01:02,640
that

1501
01:01:08,210 --> 01:01:06,359
cemeteries they're looking in ancient

1502
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:08,220
Indian mounds because something was

1503
01:01:11,329 --> 01:01:10,799
buried of theirs and

1504
01:01:14,569 --> 01:01:11,339
um

1505
01:01:17,630 --> 01:01:14,579
so I started researching the area and

1506
01:01:20,329 --> 01:01:17,640
what I did find in our area was that we

1507
01:01:23,210 --> 01:01:20,339
have miles and miles of closed Limestone

1508
01:01:24,410 --> 01:01:23,220
mines and

1509
01:01:27,049 --> 01:01:24,420
um

1510
01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:27,059
you know I'm trying to figure out who

1511
01:01:30,170 --> 01:01:28,740
owns them so we can go in there and

1512
01:01:31,490 --> 01:01:30,180
check on you know because a lot of

1513
01:01:33,710 --> 01:01:31,500
people are like you you know where would

1514
01:01:35,569 --> 01:01:33,720
the dog men leave around you or live

1515
01:01:37,609 --> 01:01:35,579
around you there's there's nowhere for

1516
01:01:39,530 --> 01:01:37,619
them to live I really think that they

1517
01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:39,540
may be dwelling down in those mines at

1518
01:01:44,750 --> 01:01:42,720
times or during parts of the year

1519
01:01:46,849 --> 01:01:44,760
um but no we I mean we have small

1520
01:01:49,490 --> 01:01:46,859
cemeteries and I'm not really sure I'd

1521
01:01:52,250 --> 01:01:49,500
have to research that right no you know

1522
01:01:54,530 --> 01:01:52,260
we we have a lot of canines upper

1523
01:01:57,410 --> 01:01:54,540
upright canine and cryptic canine

1524
01:01:59,630 --> 01:01:57,420
studies here in Pennsylvania and uh we

1525
01:02:00,890 --> 01:01:59,640
we have thought Butch thought that I

1526
01:02:03,890 --> 01:02:00,900
thought from the very beginning that

1527
01:02:06,890 --> 01:02:03,900
they may hide in Coal Mines here

1528
01:02:09,470 --> 01:02:06,900
um so you know that may very well be I

1529
01:02:11,329 --> 01:02:09,480
mean if we do have open minds where

1530
01:02:13,130 --> 01:02:11,339
there's cave a cave system in there

1531
01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:13,140
somehow absolutely I think they're it's

1532
01:02:16,609 --> 01:02:15,839
very possible they can do that

1533
01:02:19,010 --> 01:02:16,619
um

1534
01:02:20,569 --> 01:02:19,020
James asked James West asks have you

1535
01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:20,579
ever tested the strength of your doors

1536
01:02:26,569 --> 01:02:23,520
and other entry points physically

1537
01:02:28,309 --> 01:02:26,579
James is I'll tell you if James is an

1538
01:02:30,349 --> 01:02:28,319
experiencer he's had two dog man

1539
01:02:36,670 --> 01:02:30,359
encounters physical encounters

1540
01:02:42,829 --> 01:02:40,010
and he's concerned about that if you

1541
01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:42,839
ever uh if you've ever checked your

1542
01:02:47,569 --> 01:02:44,880
doors to make sure they couldn't get in

1543
01:02:50,990 --> 01:02:47,579
Yeah well yeah we've we've got a mud

1544
01:02:53,150 --> 01:02:51,000
room in the back I suppose they could

1545
01:02:55,069 --> 01:02:53,160
probably smash that window so basically

1546
01:02:56,930 --> 01:02:55,079
we have

1547
01:02:59,870 --> 01:02:56,940
um and the mud room has a sliding glass

1548
01:03:02,329 --> 01:02:59,880
to the outside which is double pane they

1549
01:03:05,569 --> 01:03:02,339
they could probably rip that open

1550
01:03:08,450 --> 01:03:05,579
so yeah but they'd have to get through

1551
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:08,460
two doors to get to our back door right

1552
01:03:13,910 --> 01:03:12,090
and we have a really old house it's 1922

1553
01:03:16,670 --> 01:03:13,920
[Music]

1554
01:03:18,950 --> 01:03:16,680
and it's actually set really weird our

1555
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:18,960
back door used to be the front door so

1556
01:03:23,809 --> 01:03:20,640
we really don't even have a front door

1557
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:23,819
we have a lower part of our yard where

1558
01:03:29,870 --> 01:03:26,640
we have a door and that's pretty solid I

1559
01:03:33,170 --> 01:03:29,880
I could well he probably could smash

1560
01:03:34,930 --> 01:03:33,180
that if you wanted well we have this you

1561
01:03:37,370 --> 01:03:34,940
guys can see this

1562
01:03:38,809 --> 01:03:37,380
we were French doors in it they wanted

1563
01:03:40,309 --> 01:03:38,819
to come and they can come in we have

1564
01:03:42,549 --> 01:03:40,319
yeah I think they'd come through that

1565
01:03:45,289 --> 01:03:42,559
yeah

1566
01:03:47,450 --> 01:03:45,299
so I mean if they wanted to come in they

1567
01:03:49,309 --> 01:03:47,460
they could come in yeah yeah they've

1568
01:03:50,510 --> 01:03:49,319
been on the roof something's been on the

1569
01:03:52,430 --> 01:03:50,520
roof

1570
01:03:54,950 --> 01:03:52,440
s well yeah I remember you telling me

1571
01:03:58,030 --> 01:03:54,960
that um your granddaughter had actually

1572
01:04:01,910 --> 01:03:58,040
seen one in the window right yeah yeah

1573
01:04:03,950 --> 01:04:01,920
so I thought that she was oh she

1574
01:04:06,170 --> 01:04:03,960
overheard her talking but she swears she

1575
01:04:08,990 --> 01:04:06,180
didn't I you know I don't want to freak

1576
01:04:11,569 --> 01:04:09,000
her out and yeah you know when she was

1577
01:04:13,730 --> 01:04:11,579
about eight years old you know well when

1578
01:04:15,890 --> 01:04:13,740
she was about four we had a bedroom

1579
01:04:17,990 --> 01:04:15,900
upstairs for her and we had it all done

1580
01:04:19,970 --> 01:04:18,000
really nice and everything and and there

1581
01:04:21,770 --> 01:04:19,980
happens to be basically a window up

1582
01:04:23,569 --> 01:04:21,780
there that runs the length of the bed we

1583
01:04:25,069 --> 01:04:23,579
have a window like that on both sides of

1584
01:04:26,990 --> 01:04:25,079
our house

1585
01:04:29,150 --> 01:04:27,000
um the other side was you know our it's

1586
01:04:32,089 --> 01:04:29,160
our extra room that used to be yeah it's

1587
01:04:35,450 --> 01:04:32,099
a bungalow with two uppers that are

1588
01:04:37,069 --> 01:04:35,460
fairly small so yeah so but a huge

1589
01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:37,079
window

1590
01:04:41,390 --> 01:04:39,839
um and you know I never put two and two

1591
01:04:42,530 --> 01:04:41,400
together she she would get up in the

1592
01:04:44,690 --> 01:04:42,540
middle of night she would come running

1593
01:04:45,890 --> 01:04:44,700
down she you know and finally she just

1594
01:04:46,970 --> 01:04:45,900
refused she wouldn't even go up there

1595
01:04:49,490 --> 01:04:46,980
and play

1596
01:04:51,349 --> 01:04:49,500
so after a couple years of that I was

1597
01:04:53,690 --> 01:04:51,359
laying in bed with her

1598
01:04:56,210 --> 01:04:53,700
um one time and I was actually laying

1599
01:04:58,730 --> 01:04:56,220
upstairs with her and she always makes

1600
01:05:00,650 --> 01:04:58,740
sure that I I shut the the blinds or

1601
01:05:01,910 --> 01:05:00,660
shut the the curtains for her and she

1602
01:05:04,010 --> 01:05:01,920
wanted she didn't want to see anything

1603
01:05:05,870 --> 01:05:04,020
through the curtains and so I was like

1604
01:05:07,549 --> 01:05:05,880
okay so I was laying down with her and I

1605
01:05:09,349 --> 01:05:07,559
said well honey why don't you want to

1606
01:05:12,049 --> 01:05:09,359
lay down up here by yourself you know

1607
01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:12,059
it's this is a nice room and you know I

1608
01:05:16,870 --> 01:05:14,160
mean heck she kicks me all night long so

1609
01:05:19,930 --> 01:05:16,880
you know I didn't have that

1610
01:05:22,730 --> 01:05:19,940
I had a toddler so yeah I know

1611
01:05:26,270 --> 01:05:22,740
and you know she was like it's probably

1612
01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:26,280
six six and a half and she says um

1613
01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:28,559
I don't like I don't like the werewolf

1614
01:05:32,870 --> 01:05:30,000
that watches me

1615
01:05:34,789 --> 01:05:32,880
and I went what and I had been very

1616
01:05:37,730 --> 01:05:34,799
careful not to speak

1617
01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:37,740
around her very careful and I said well

1618
01:05:40,490 --> 01:05:39,359
what do you mean by that honey and she

1619
01:05:43,309 --> 01:05:40,500
goes

1620
01:05:45,770 --> 01:05:43,319
just matter of factly you know he thinks

1621
01:05:47,630 --> 01:05:45,780
I'm sleeping and he sits there on the

1622
01:05:50,170 --> 01:05:47,640
roof and he watches me but I'm not

1623
01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:50,180
sleeping I'm looking at him too

1624
01:05:55,190 --> 01:05:53,280
wow so needless to say when she comes

1625
01:05:56,990 --> 01:05:55,200
she gets to sleep with Grandma because

1626
01:05:59,210 --> 01:05:57,000
you know I don't want her being

1627
01:06:01,069 --> 01:05:59,220
traumatized and oh I don't blame you

1628
01:06:03,710 --> 01:06:01,079
yeah and that's the thing I I really

1629
01:06:05,690 --> 01:06:03,720
think that these these creatures they

1630
01:06:08,270 --> 01:06:05,700
are drawn to children they are drawn

1631
01:06:11,030 --> 01:06:08,280
there I mean I've had more encounters

1632
01:06:12,890 --> 01:06:11,040
than my husband my son has you know had

1633
01:06:15,109 --> 01:06:12,900
quite a few encounters here so it's not

1634
01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:15,119
a male female thing

1635
01:06:19,970 --> 01:06:18,480
um but I definitely think you know

1636
01:06:22,089 --> 01:06:19,980
they're interested in us they're like

1637
01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:22,099
peeping I call them peeping Toms because

1638
01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:25,200
you know I always hear the gravel moving

1639
01:06:28,670 --> 01:06:27,119
when I'm walking into the kitchen I know

1640
01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:28,680
that one of them was just watching me

1641
01:06:32,690 --> 01:06:30,720
you know what I mean

1642
01:06:34,130 --> 01:06:32,700
um they do like the like the walk I mean

1643
01:06:37,490 --> 01:06:34,140
like the watch

1644
01:06:39,289 --> 01:06:37,500
and she's still very young so she's not

1645
01:06:42,829 --> 01:06:39,299
jaded by the world I mean I've had

1646
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:42,839
experiences since I was like four so

1647
01:06:46,789 --> 01:06:44,400
I mean

1648
01:06:49,190 --> 01:06:46,799
my son is starting to have them so it's

1649
01:06:51,890 --> 01:06:49,200
just it's that when they're that young

1650
01:06:54,529 --> 01:06:51,900
they're that open yeah and I don't even

1651
01:06:56,329 --> 01:06:54,539
I don't even know where she got the idea

1652
01:06:58,970 --> 01:06:56,339
of werewolf or where she got the term

1653
01:07:00,829 --> 01:06:58,980
because she doesn't watch scary movie

1654
01:07:04,130 --> 01:07:00,839
she won't watch scary movies any

1655
01:07:06,170 --> 01:07:04,140
werewolf movies you know yeah she must

1656
01:07:08,089 --> 01:07:06,180
have gotten in somewhere but for her to

1657
01:07:10,849 --> 01:07:08,099
say you know it watches me while I'm

1658
01:07:13,250 --> 01:07:10,859
sleeping yeah you know it watches it

1659
01:07:16,069 --> 01:07:13,260
does watch yeah

1660
01:07:18,829 --> 01:07:16,079
so we did have a question

1661
01:07:21,710 --> 01:07:18,839
um do you see them on two on two feet of

1662
01:07:23,569 --> 01:07:21,720
bipedal or are also on quarter Peds do

1663
01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:23,579
you see them on four you want to answer

1664
01:07:26,930 --> 01:07:25,440
this one

1665
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:26,940
yeah sure

1666
01:07:31,609 --> 01:07:29,039
um boy I don't know what it was it about

1667
01:07:34,010 --> 01:07:31,619
a month ago

1668
01:07:35,870 --> 01:07:34,020
um I was going out of the house checking

1669
01:07:38,270 --> 01:07:35,880
on the chickens making sure they're up

1670
01:07:41,569 --> 01:07:38,280
they're getting put up so I take Liberty

1671
01:07:43,490 --> 01:07:41,579
out she's the German Shepherd so I'm

1672
01:07:45,770 --> 01:07:43,500
walking kind of

1673
01:07:48,109 --> 01:07:45,780
out the back door and we've kind of got

1674
01:07:49,250 --> 01:07:48,119
a little hill going up at the end of our

1675
01:07:53,390 --> 01:07:49,260
driveway

1676
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:53,400
and uh so I'm just walking in in Liberty

1677
01:07:58,130 --> 01:07:55,680
comes tearing by me

1678
01:08:00,950 --> 01:07:58,140
and runs directly

1679
01:08:03,230 --> 01:08:00,960
to the stupa to our back door and as

1680
01:08:05,029 --> 01:08:03,240
she's doing that I'm I look up and

1681
01:08:07,430 --> 01:08:05,039
there's something Standish Twilight

1682
01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:07,440
there's something standing

1683
01:08:14,329 --> 01:08:10,079
a little bit off to the right

1684
01:08:17,809 --> 01:08:14,339
um by where our fire pit is and I can't

1685
01:08:19,789 --> 01:08:17,819
I can see it but it's grayish it's got

1686
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:19,799
big shoulders

1687
01:08:25,729 --> 01:08:23,520
probably six to seven feet tall I it's

1688
01:08:29,450 --> 01:08:25,739
got a small head but you know it's like

1689
01:08:31,309 --> 01:08:29,460
but as I looked up and looked at it my

1690
01:08:33,530 --> 01:08:31,319
first thought was I gotta get my ass

1691
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,540
inside and get the gun because I'm gonna

1692
01:08:37,729 --> 01:08:35,040
you know what I mean it's gonna eat me

1693
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:37,739
again something but then by the time I

1694
01:08:44,090 --> 01:08:40,560
turn around I could see the silhouette

1695
01:08:45,410 --> 01:08:44,100
it actually kind of looked like it went

1696
01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:45,420
down

1697
01:08:51,229 --> 01:08:48,960
on to all fours and was gone like this

1698
01:08:54,249 --> 01:08:51,239
is all within this isn't like slo-mo

1699
01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:54,259
this this happened in about 2.5 seconds

1700
01:08:59,870 --> 01:08:57,839
it just kind of went into just you know

1701
01:09:02,809 --> 01:08:59,880
and she was looking out the window she

1702
01:09:05,030 --> 01:09:02,819
saw me stop you know and she was like

1703
01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:05,040
Greg what's going on and I'm like I

1704
01:09:09,950 --> 01:09:07,199
don't know what I just saw I could tell

1705
01:09:13,370 --> 01:09:09,960
by his posture that he'd seen one I saw

1706
01:09:16,189 --> 01:09:13,380
he's seen some yeah and and it took him

1707
01:09:18,349 --> 01:09:16,199
I I'm and this is no exaggeration six

1708
01:09:20,990 --> 01:09:18,359
hours to tell me what he saw

1709
01:09:22,610 --> 01:09:21,000
because he couldn't he couldn't you know

1710
01:09:24,410 --> 01:09:22,620
his mind could I think that was the

1711
01:09:26,450 --> 01:09:24,420
first time you've really seen him

1712
01:09:27,890 --> 01:09:26,460
like that right well yeah the other time

1713
01:09:30,289 --> 01:09:27,900
I encounter I didn't even know was

1714
01:09:31,789 --> 01:09:30,299
happening it was watching me on top you

1715
01:09:34,010 --> 01:09:31,799
know from behind the chicken coop and

1716
01:09:39,050 --> 01:09:34,020
debating whether I was going to eat me

1717
01:09:39,060 --> 01:09:43,610
them being bipedal

1718
01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:45,349
recently

1719
01:09:50,209 --> 01:09:47,279
um just a few weeks ago when I started

1720
01:09:51,950 --> 01:09:50,219
seeing their offspring their offspring

1721
01:09:55,070 --> 01:09:51,960
are um

1722
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:55,080
have been on all fours they have not

1723
01:10:00,169 --> 01:09:58,320
been in fact the first time I saw it I

1724
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:00,179
was looking out the window I had Ripley

1725
01:10:06,229 --> 01:10:03,600
was outside with liberty and um Ripley's

1726
01:10:08,630 --> 01:10:06,239
only uh you know going on six months old

1727
01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:08,640
so I keep an eye on her I do have them I

1728
01:10:12,350 --> 01:10:10,080
was in the Army so I do have them

1729
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:12,360
perimeter trained I worked with dogs in

1730
01:10:17,570 --> 01:10:13,920
the Army

1731
01:10:20,810 --> 01:10:17,580
um and I saw her run down the driveway

1732
01:10:23,330 --> 01:10:20,820
towards the road so I I yelled at Greg I

1733
01:10:25,850 --> 01:10:23,340
said Ripley's going towards the road so

1734
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:25,860
I I ran outside and ran down the

1735
01:10:30,830 --> 01:10:28,800
driveway no Ripley and I'm like well

1736
01:10:31,910 --> 01:10:30,840
that's weird how could she disappear and

1737
01:10:34,010 --> 01:10:31,920
then all of a sudden I heard something

1738
01:10:35,930 --> 01:10:34,020
running up into the tree line in the

1739
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:35,940
front around the front of the house

1740
01:10:40,729 --> 01:10:38,880
and I was like Ripley never goes up in

1741
01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:40,739
that tree line so I went over there and

1742
01:10:44,689 --> 01:10:42,480
I was like well I gotta find Rippy so I

1743
01:10:47,450 --> 01:10:44,699
ran down by the road thinking she's in

1744
01:10:50,810 --> 01:10:47,460
the road so I'm coming back up

1745
01:10:52,910 --> 01:10:50,820
um towards our back porch and she comes

1746
01:10:55,370 --> 01:10:52,920
from around the back of the house

1747
01:10:57,530 --> 01:10:55,380
now we have fences up so there's no way

1748
01:10:59,090 --> 01:10:57,540
that she would have been you know in the

1749
01:11:00,350 --> 01:10:59,100
two minutes that it took me to walk up

1750
01:11:03,290 --> 01:11:00,360
the driveway that she could have

1751
01:11:05,390 --> 01:11:03,300
completely gone around the house right

1752
01:11:07,070 --> 01:11:05,400
so then it dawned on me all of a sudden

1753
01:11:09,890 --> 01:11:07,080
it clicked you know the Wim the the

1754
01:11:12,050 --> 01:11:09,900
yikes we've been hearing the yipping and

1755
01:11:14,149 --> 01:11:12,060
the sounds and then I see this and I was

1756
01:11:17,209 --> 01:11:14,159
like oh I came in and I was so excited

1757
01:11:20,990 --> 01:11:17,219
is that weird I was like we've got pups

1758
01:11:23,270 --> 01:11:21,000
we've got problems I just knew it and

1759
01:11:26,030 --> 01:11:23,280
then the last the last time I saw the

1760
01:11:28,610 --> 01:11:26,040
one of the The Offspring

1761
01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:28,620
um it was actually towards the back of

1762
01:11:34,850 --> 01:11:30,960
our property and and these things must

1763
01:11:36,890 --> 01:11:34,860
grow phenomenally because it it in just

1764
01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:36,900
a couple probably about three four weeks

1765
01:11:41,810 --> 01:11:39,600
it had gone from the size of Ripley to

1766
01:11:43,610 --> 01:11:41,820
the size of our German Shepherd and it

1767
01:11:45,169 --> 01:11:43,620
was literally I would have never even

1768
01:11:47,570 --> 01:11:45,179
known it was there

1769
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:47,580
um I had both dogs outside

1770
01:11:50,930 --> 01:11:49,440
um and then I just I always have this

1771
01:11:52,610 --> 01:11:50,940
headlamp on me so I can keep because

1772
01:11:54,530 --> 01:11:52,620
both of our dogs are black so I can't

1773
01:11:57,290 --> 01:11:54,540
see them and I want to make sure they

1774
01:12:00,350 --> 01:11:57,300
don't become prey so I only turned the

1775
01:12:02,330 --> 01:12:00,360
headline and if I need it so I couldn't

1776
01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:02,340
see either one of them so I turned the

1777
01:12:07,790 --> 01:12:05,520
headlamp on and Straight Ahead was one

1778
01:12:09,590 --> 01:12:07,800
sitting in the weeds and I I saw it's

1779
01:12:12,830 --> 01:12:09,600
total at first I thought it was Liberty

1780
01:12:14,570 --> 01:12:12,840
our German Shepherd because it had the

1781
01:12:16,930 --> 01:12:14,580
same silhouette that she had it was

1782
01:12:20,030 --> 01:12:16,940
sitting like a dogwood

1783
01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:20,040
and it had you know the reflection was

1784
01:12:24,050 --> 01:12:22,080
green that's the same color that both of

1785
01:12:26,270 --> 01:12:24,060
our dogs have so I know it was a canine

1786
01:12:28,430 --> 01:12:26,280
and I know it was about you know about

1787
01:12:30,169 --> 01:12:28,440
the size of Liberty who's about 76

1788
01:12:32,930 --> 01:12:30,179
pounds right

1789
01:12:36,229 --> 01:12:32,940
so it but it was on the other side of

1790
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:36,239
the fence so I ran in in the split

1791
01:12:40,370 --> 01:12:37,920
second that it took me to get the

1792
01:12:44,090 --> 01:12:40,380
infrared binoculars

1793
01:12:45,649 --> 01:12:44,100
um I literally was turning him on as I

1794
01:12:47,390 --> 01:12:45,659
was running because I wanted to catch

1795
01:12:50,090 --> 01:12:47,400
the sun because it's I I could do video

1796
01:12:51,950 --> 01:12:50,100
on that or take pictures

1797
01:12:53,689 --> 01:12:51,960
um it stood up

1798
01:12:54,530 --> 01:12:53,699
um in a bipedal

1799
01:12:59,149 --> 01:12:54,540
um

1800
01:13:01,550 --> 01:12:59,159
would stand up and then just ran off

1801
01:13:04,490 --> 01:13:01,560
into the woods and literally as it

1802
01:13:07,970 --> 01:13:04,500
started running my my binoculars came on

1803
01:13:10,250 --> 01:13:07,980
it came online so I was like

1804
01:13:12,050 --> 01:13:10,260
um but yeah so they they seem to be

1805
01:13:13,910 --> 01:13:12,060
growing very fast

1806
01:13:16,970 --> 01:13:13,920
I have a couple questions from the chat

1807
01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:16,980
so Marla Snyder wants to know why do you

1808
01:13:23,390 --> 01:13:20,640
feel they have not uh harmed you

1809
01:13:25,189 --> 01:13:23,400
that's that's honestly what we ask

1810
01:13:27,770 --> 01:13:25,199
ourselves all the time

1811
01:13:30,649 --> 01:13:27,780
you know we have no clue no clue we have

1812
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:30,659
no clue you know they they they they

1813
01:13:36,290 --> 01:13:33,600
they want us to know that we're they're

1814
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:36,300
here I know that

1815
01:13:41,810 --> 01:13:39,600
um 100 they are aware that we can see

1816
01:13:44,810 --> 01:13:41,820
them and that I believe they are aware

1817
01:13:46,669 --> 01:13:44,820
that I can feel them when they're here

1818
01:13:49,729 --> 01:13:46,679
um we're trying to figure out whether

1819
01:13:52,189 --> 01:13:49,739
they want to communicate sometimes they

1820
01:13:53,810 --> 01:13:52,199
do sometimes they don't you know they're

1821
01:13:56,030 --> 01:13:53,820
communication I think their

1822
01:13:56,930 --> 01:13:56,040
communication is very

1823
01:14:01,910 --> 01:13:56,940
um

1824
01:14:03,229 --> 01:14:01,920
they don't they won't hold conversations

1825
01:14:05,149 --> 01:14:03,239
with us they'll just be like

1826
01:14:06,770 --> 01:14:05,159
matter-of-factly whenever they do say

1827
01:14:08,090 --> 01:14:06,780
it's like like when I was asking them

1828
01:14:10,490 --> 01:14:08,100
you know you're gonna eat me are you

1829
01:14:12,890 --> 01:14:10,500
gonna be my friend and I get I am friend

1830
01:14:14,090 --> 01:14:12,900
you know and that's it I mean they don't

1831
01:14:17,209 --> 01:14:14,100
want to say hey you want to have tea

1832
01:14:20,090 --> 01:14:17,219
tomorrow you know things like that so

1833
01:14:23,810 --> 01:14:20,100
um I we don't we don't know and then the

1834
01:14:27,050 --> 01:14:23,820
other question we ask is why us no why

1835
01:14:30,229 --> 01:14:27,060
are you showing yourself to us why you

1836
01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:30,239
know you don't you eat everybody else's

1837
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:32,400
dogs you haven't eaten our dogs well we

1838
01:14:36,770 --> 01:14:34,560
go out with our dogs and our dogs are

1839
01:14:38,270 --> 01:14:36,780
perimeter trained so I I don't know how

1840
01:14:40,729 --> 01:14:38,280
to answer that question because I don't

1841
01:14:43,729 --> 01:14:40,739
know that but they have never been other

1842
01:14:45,770 --> 01:14:43,739
than scaring the you know what out of us

1843
01:14:47,149 --> 01:14:45,780
like the one time in the chicken coop it

1844
01:14:47,990 --> 01:14:47,159
got me

1845
01:14:51,169 --> 01:14:48,000
um

1846
01:14:53,930 --> 01:14:51,179
it doesn't do anything to harm us

1847
01:14:55,490 --> 01:14:53,940
maybe you realize that you have control

1848
01:14:57,709 --> 01:14:55,500
your dogs and they're not going to

1849
01:15:01,010 --> 01:14:57,719
impede on them and uh they can respect

1850
01:15:03,890 --> 01:15:01,020
you for that yeah maybe

1851
01:15:05,870 --> 01:15:03,900
um you know um Vincent asked about

1852
01:15:10,630 --> 01:15:05,880
gifting that I know you feed them bread

1853
01:15:14,149 --> 01:15:10,640
right ah not on purpose but you have

1854
01:15:15,770 --> 01:15:14,159
so yeah so

1855
01:15:20,390 --> 01:15:15,780
yes

1856
01:15:21,770 --> 01:15:20,400
so we feed our chickens bread Okay so

1857
01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:21,780
and

1858
01:15:27,169 --> 01:15:23,520
that that was the one thing when

1859
01:15:29,209 --> 01:15:27,179
Jennifer and I started talking was we we

1860
01:15:32,209 --> 01:15:29,219
got this one picture and and I don't

1861
01:15:34,370 --> 01:15:32,219
know if Vincent has that One queued up

1862
01:15:36,290 --> 01:15:34,380
or not it's very blurry it was a very

1863
01:15:38,750 --> 01:15:36,300
foggy day

1864
01:15:41,510 --> 01:15:38,760
um but

1865
01:15:44,450 --> 01:15:41,520
when she was talking to me I I

1866
01:15:47,209 --> 01:15:44,460
immediately remembered that scene where

1867
01:15:49,490 --> 01:15:47,219
I had gone outside I had given the

1868
01:15:51,830 --> 01:15:49,500
chickens bread and if you want to blow

1869
01:15:53,510 --> 01:15:51,840
that up just a little bit

1870
01:15:57,229 --> 01:15:53,520
um

1871
01:15:59,750 --> 01:15:57,239
and the next day not 15 minutes after

1872
01:16:03,229 --> 01:15:59,760
I'd given them the bread I caught this

1873
01:16:05,630 --> 01:16:03,239
picture of what I believe is one of the

1874
01:16:08,209 --> 01:16:05,640
uh one of the dog men eating the bread

1875
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:08,219
that I put down for lonely boy right

1876
01:16:12,050 --> 01:16:10,320
there's no you can see there's the

1877
01:16:14,209 --> 01:16:12,060
chicken coop is to the right there's no

1878
01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:14,219
chickens that you can see

1879
01:16:16,910 --> 01:16:15,360
um however

1880
01:16:19,250 --> 01:16:16,920
um Todd the gentleman that I told you

1881
01:16:22,610 --> 01:16:19,260
was the wildlife photographer he

1882
01:16:24,649 --> 01:16:22,620
actually cleaned this up for me and to

1883
01:16:27,590 --> 01:16:24,659
the right

1884
01:16:29,330 --> 01:16:27,600
um he was able to make out and I don't

1885
01:16:32,930 --> 01:16:29,340
know if you can see if you want to blow

1886
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:32,940
it up just a little bit there is a

1887
01:16:38,149 --> 01:16:35,040
four-legged creature there is another

1888
01:16:42,050 --> 01:16:38,159
creature in this picture so to the left

1889
01:16:45,470 --> 01:16:42,060
of the shed you can see the the the

1890
01:16:47,450 --> 01:16:45,480
waterer but then to the left of that you

1891
01:16:50,270 --> 01:16:47,460
can just make out

1892
01:16:52,970 --> 01:16:50,280
go ahead and yeah keep going up

1893
01:16:54,590 --> 01:16:52,980
with your nope nope nope go back down I

1894
01:16:55,910 --> 01:16:54,600
was I meant to Arrow so I could you

1895
01:16:58,010 --> 01:16:55,920
could point it to the with the arrow

1896
01:17:00,530 --> 01:16:58,020
okay now go to the left

1897
01:17:01,430 --> 01:17:00,540
right there nope go to the right just a

1898
01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:01,440
little bit

1899
01:17:06,350 --> 01:17:02,880
right there

1900
01:17:07,970 --> 01:17:06,360
okay if you look in that area

1901
01:17:09,410 --> 01:17:07,980
um I could not believe it he said you

1902
01:17:11,630 --> 01:17:09,420
know you have another creature there

1903
01:17:13,490 --> 01:17:11,640
there is a four-legged creature I

1904
01:17:15,470 --> 01:17:13,500
believe that this may have been another

1905
01:17:17,030 --> 01:17:15,480
Offspring we just didn't know it at the

1906
01:17:19,790 --> 01:17:17,040
time

1907
01:17:22,130 --> 01:17:19,800
um so anyway so Jennifer asked me when

1908
01:17:24,169 --> 01:17:22,140
we're talking well she didn't ask me she

1909
01:17:25,850 --> 01:17:24,179
just flat out said you know because I I

1910
01:17:28,189 --> 01:17:25,860
told her why are they coming around here

1911
01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:28,199
what what why Why Us

1912
01:17:32,209 --> 01:17:30,239
and she said because you're feeding them

1913
01:17:34,010 --> 01:17:32,219
and I was like that's crazy I would

1914
01:17:35,209 --> 01:17:34,020
never feed these things I don't I don't

1915
01:17:36,590 --> 01:17:35,219
even know what they are I don't even

1916
01:17:39,110 --> 01:17:36,600
know what to eat

1917
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:39,120
so then I thought of this picture and I

1918
01:17:43,250 --> 01:17:41,040
was like oh Lord

1919
01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:43,260
she's right they're eating the bread and

1920
01:17:47,209 --> 01:17:44,880
I mean when I first saw this picture I

1921
01:17:48,649 --> 01:17:47,219
thought it was very sad because why the

1922
01:17:49,910 --> 01:17:48,659
heck would these creatures want to eat

1923
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:49,920
eat the bread

1924
01:17:55,550 --> 01:17:52,320
right so

1925
01:17:57,410 --> 01:17:55,560
um but then you know we just we had an

1926
01:18:01,070 --> 01:17:57,420
encounter a couple weeks ago where I

1927
01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:01,080
went outside at night and I gave them an

1928
01:18:06,770 --> 01:18:03,600
offering of bread and they actually took

1929
01:18:09,050 --> 01:18:06,780
it so we know that they definitely like

1930
01:18:11,390 --> 01:18:09,060
bread for some reason but I've never

1931
01:18:13,010 --> 01:18:11,400
intentionally other than that day fed

1932
01:18:14,209 --> 01:18:13,020
them intentionally because I know you're

1933
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:14,219
not supposed to feed these creatures

1934
01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:15,840
because the minute you stop feeding them

1935
01:18:20,030 --> 01:18:17,120
you're in trouble

1936
01:18:22,130 --> 01:18:20,040
so interesting

1937
01:18:26,030 --> 01:18:22,140
hmm

1938
01:18:28,010 --> 01:18:26,040
so where do you think it goes from here

1939
01:18:29,870 --> 01:18:28,020
um well let me ask you that let me ask

1940
01:18:33,169 --> 01:18:29,880
you this first

1941
01:18:36,410 --> 01:18:33,179
do you think there is a chance even a

1942
01:18:42,070 --> 01:18:36,420
small chance that you may have had a

1943
01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:44,390
what I mean why do you ask that that

1944
01:18:48,590 --> 01:18:46,560
well

1945
01:18:51,229 --> 01:18:48,600
you know I I you know I've heard a lot

1946
01:18:53,930 --> 01:18:51,239
of these cases

1947
01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:53,940
um and I have had a lot of people who

1948
01:18:56,870 --> 01:18:54,960
have

1949
01:18:59,390 --> 01:18:56,880
said to me that they thought they had a

1950
01:19:01,070 --> 01:18:59,400
Bigfoot vice versa for a dog man and

1951
01:19:03,310 --> 01:19:01,080
weren't really sure and I was just

1952
01:19:06,169 --> 01:19:03,320
wondering if there was anything that you

1953
01:19:07,970 --> 01:19:06,179
may have noticed that was a little bit

1954
01:19:10,729 --> 01:19:07,980
odd compared to other

1955
01:19:12,410 --> 01:19:10,739
evidence that you picked up that might

1956
01:19:15,410 --> 01:19:12,420
have seen that was something other than

1957
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:15,420
what you had noticed before

1958
01:19:19,970 --> 01:19:18,000
um I mean before we started having these

1959
01:19:22,729 --> 01:19:19,980
encounters you know you watch the

1960
01:19:25,010 --> 01:19:22,739
Bigfoot things on TV and you're like you

1961
01:19:27,229 --> 01:19:25,020
know I mean I never I honestly never

1962
01:19:28,850 --> 01:19:27,239
paid attention to any kind of Cryptids

1963
01:19:31,430 --> 01:19:28,860
and stuff I like watching scary movies

1964
01:19:32,270 --> 01:19:31,440
but you know

1965
01:19:34,010 --> 01:19:32,280
um

1966
01:19:36,410 --> 01:19:34,020
I don't know if I would know the

1967
01:19:38,270 --> 01:19:36,420
difference honestly between a Bigfoot

1968
01:19:40,970 --> 01:19:38,280
and a dog man other than the pictures

1969
01:19:43,310 --> 01:19:40,980
and stuff that we've got

1970
01:19:45,950 --> 01:19:43,320
um we have noticed a very distinct smell

1971
01:19:49,729 --> 01:19:45,960
a lot of times that's almost like a

1972
01:19:51,770 --> 01:19:49,739
skunky sweet smell you know and

1973
01:19:54,530 --> 01:19:51,780
sometimes in my mind I wonder is that

1974
01:19:56,270 --> 01:19:54,540
Bigfoot or is that Dogman and is Bigfoot

1975
01:19:58,189 --> 01:19:56,280
coming around because the Dogman told me

1976
01:20:00,830 --> 01:19:58,199
told them that hey go check out these

1977
01:20:02,870 --> 01:20:00,840
people they're kind of cool you know but

1978
01:20:05,570 --> 01:20:02,880
as far as having

1979
01:20:08,930 --> 01:20:05,580
seeing them have you ever

1980
01:20:10,189 --> 01:20:08,940
I I would just say with with a couple

1981
01:20:13,130 --> 01:20:10,199
quick

1982
01:20:16,550 --> 01:20:13,140
shots that I saw I

1983
01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:16,560
it was more of a leaner type body real

1984
01:20:24,770 --> 01:20:20,159
you know hybrid Built For Speed kind of

1985
01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:24,780
real big shoulders but and just I mean

1986
01:20:29,030 --> 01:20:27,840
our thoughts of Bigfoot is he's his legs

1987
01:20:32,330 --> 01:20:29,040
are like

1988
01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:32,340
you know huge massive and this is more

1989
01:20:37,790 --> 01:20:35,040
of a Slender type

1990
01:20:39,890 --> 01:20:37,800
right I don't know I just

1991
01:20:43,010 --> 01:20:39,900
I mean he's whatever we've got running

1992
01:20:45,010 --> 01:20:43,020
around is for sure quick so yeah well

1993
01:20:48,169 --> 01:20:45,020
you know I I the reason I asked you know

1994
01:20:50,930 --> 01:20:48,179
from you live west of Akron I mean the

1995
01:20:53,390 --> 01:20:50,940
whole way from Cuyahoga down into

1996
01:20:54,830 --> 01:20:53,400
Cambridge and down that way it has had a

1997
01:20:57,950 --> 01:20:54,840
lot of Bigfoot sightings over here yeah

1998
01:20:59,709 --> 01:20:57,960
the valley sure absolutely yeah and uh I

1999
01:21:01,910 --> 01:20:59,719
was just wondering if maybe

2000
01:21:04,070 --> 01:21:01,920
at some point you might have seen

2001
01:21:06,649 --> 01:21:04,080
something that thought man well maybe it

2002
01:21:09,410 --> 01:21:06,659
was a Bigfoot other than a dog man and

2003
01:21:11,870 --> 01:21:09,420
look we're I definitely believe we have

2004
01:21:14,990 --> 01:21:11,880
an upright I mean canines around their

2005
01:21:16,610 --> 01:21:15,000
cryptic canines but uh I was just I was

2006
01:21:17,810 --> 01:21:16,620
just curious if there was something else

2007
01:21:22,490 --> 01:21:17,820
that maybe

2008
01:21:25,370 --> 01:21:22,500
was something other than that but yeah

2009
01:21:28,189 --> 01:21:25,380
okay and I think because in where we

2010
01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:28,199
live it's you know the houses are far

2011
01:21:33,709 --> 01:21:30,480
apart but they're not that far apart

2012
01:21:36,530 --> 01:21:33,719
so I don't think Bigfoot likes this kind

2013
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:36,540
of you know being around people I think

2014
01:21:41,149 --> 01:21:39,120
it would be mostly in the marshlands and

2015
01:21:42,830 --> 01:21:41,159
maybe around the Silver Creek area that

2016
01:21:45,229 --> 01:21:42,840
we have here

2017
01:21:46,850 --> 01:21:45,239
um but Dogman definitely like to be

2018
01:21:48,890 --> 01:21:46,860
around people again like I said because

2019
01:21:50,689 --> 01:21:48,900
I think we're you know our pets are easy

2020
01:21:53,030 --> 01:21:50,699
pickings for them and they can get a

2021
01:21:55,250 --> 01:21:53,040
quick launch and while the Bigfoot team

2022
01:21:58,250 --> 01:21:55,260
that we've talked to too they've kind of

2023
01:22:01,910 --> 01:21:58,260
said that that they think that some of

2024
01:22:04,430 --> 01:22:01,920
these dogmens are actually the Bigfoot

2025
01:22:07,130 --> 01:22:04,440
is a little bit intimidated by the dog

2026
01:22:08,050 --> 01:22:07,140
man so whether or not that's true I

2027
01:22:10,729 --> 01:22:08,060
don't know

2028
01:22:13,790 --> 01:22:10,739
pushing them pushing them out of their

2029
01:22:18,729 --> 01:22:13,800
territories I I had done investigations

2030
01:22:23,090 --> 01:22:21,110
you know I've been in contact with

2031
01:22:25,250 --> 01:22:23,100
several investigators who have been in

2032
01:22:28,250 --> 01:22:25,260
areas where they've actually had

2033
01:22:30,830 --> 01:22:28,260
you know they've battled you know right

2034
01:22:32,810 --> 01:22:30,840
Northern Minnesota is a particular area

2035
01:22:33,729 --> 01:22:32,820
where there some of this has happened

2036
01:22:37,370 --> 01:22:33,739
before

2037
01:22:40,250 --> 01:22:37,380
and uh yeah I I I think you're probably

2038
01:22:43,070 --> 01:22:40,260
right I I know here in Pennsylvania

2039
01:22:45,050 --> 01:22:43,080
uh they they do keep apart

2040
01:22:47,390 --> 01:22:45,060
um it seems that when they travel and of

2041
01:22:51,050 --> 01:22:47,400
course you have a lot of mountain ranges

2042
01:22:53,510 --> 01:22:51,060
and ridges around here uh the dogmen or

2043
01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:53,520
the upright canine seem to stay in the

2044
01:22:58,550 --> 01:22:54,719
higher ground

2045
01:23:00,410 --> 01:22:58,560
and the Bigfoot will travel in the

2046
01:23:02,750 --> 01:23:00,420
valleys

2047
01:23:04,669 --> 01:23:02,760
and I don't know if they migrate or what

2048
01:23:06,950 --> 01:23:04,679
they do I I guess maybe at some point

2049
01:23:10,370 --> 01:23:06,960
they do go to other areas and come back

2050
01:23:12,410 --> 01:23:10,380
and forth but uh you know we I'm talking

2051
01:23:14,750 --> 01:23:12,420
about areas around the Appalachian Trail

2052
01:23:17,330 --> 01:23:14,760
and such that it runs through you know

2053
01:23:20,810 --> 01:23:17,340
the Blue Ridge and the South Mountain in

2054
01:23:23,209 --> 01:23:20,820
that area around here uh it does seem

2055
01:23:26,030 --> 01:23:23,219
that the sightings we get

2056
01:23:29,110 --> 01:23:26,040
uh the the Bigfoot kind of stand lower

2057
01:23:32,090 --> 01:23:29,120
ground as a parent to the uh the canines

2058
01:23:32,990 --> 01:23:32,100
and the one thing that I notice is you

2059
01:23:36,250 --> 01:23:33,000
know

2060
01:23:38,990 --> 01:23:36,260
trying to get as much information

2061
01:23:40,910 --> 01:23:39,000
basically how to research and you know

2062
01:23:42,350 --> 01:23:40,920
the team is helping us out tremendously

2063
01:23:45,110 --> 01:23:42,360
they've taught us all kinds of stuff

2064
01:23:47,570 --> 01:23:45,120
about hydrocal and things like that we

2065
01:23:49,970 --> 01:23:47,580
also find ourselves watching stuff

2066
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:49,980
um you know not for the scare of it but

2067
01:23:54,890 --> 01:23:51,840
also just kind of learn you know things

2068
01:23:55,550 --> 01:23:54,900
that we watch on TV and

2069
01:23:59,149 --> 01:23:55,560
um

2070
01:24:00,709 --> 01:23:59,159
one of the things I think is that

2071
01:24:01,910 --> 01:24:00,719
um oh man I just lost my train of

2072
01:24:06,290 --> 01:24:01,920
thought

2073
01:24:09,590 --> 01:24:06,300
um that definitely the dogmen like to be

2074
01:24:12,110 --> 01:24:09,600
around humans or they tend to congregate

2075
01:24:13,729 --> 01:24:12,120
a little bit about humans and oh and

2076
01:24:15,530 --> 01:24:13,739
then some of the things that I see when

2077
01:24:17,890 --> 01:24:15,540
they talk about the speed and they talk

2078
01:24:20,510 --> 01:24:17,900
about this I really believe that there's

2079
01:24:23,209 --> 01:24:20,520
Bigfoot sightings out there that are

2080
01:24:24,950 --> 01:24:23,219
being labeled as Bigfoot sightings when

2081
01:24:26,630 --> 01:24:24,960
they're actually dogmen oh I believe

2082
01:24:29,930 --> 01:24:26,640
that's true I think vice versa as well

2083
01:24:32,870 --> 01:24:29,940
absolutely I I felt that for a long time

2084
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:32,880
uh Nancy Malcolm asked uh what do you

2085
01:24:37,250 --> 01:24:35,040
think they eat uh other than

2086
01:24:39,290 --> 01:24:37,260
you know the pets and the small Critters

2087
01:24:42,169 --> 01:24:39,300
around her have you ever heard of any

2088
01:24:45,770 --> 01:24:42,179
cattle or sheep or anything bigger being

2089
01:24:48,229 --> 01:24:45,780
taken down no we we don't have a lot of

2090
01:24:51,110 --> 01:24:48,239
um farm animals around here I mean we've

2091
01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:51,120
had pigs we've had goats we had the

2092
01:24:57,229 --> 01:24:54,960
gentlemen you know our neighbor had cows

2093
01:24:58,729 --> 01:24:57,239
um we haven't heard of of you know but

2094
01:25:01,130 --> 01:24:58,739
we don't talk to a lot of the the

2095
01:25:02,689 --> 01:25:01,140
farmers either you know you know we

2096
01:25:04,430 --> 01:25:02,699
pretty much stay to ourselves here so

2097
01:25:07,970 --> 01:25:04,440
there could have been but we're just not

2098
01:25:10,910 --> 01:25:07,980
aware of it interesting I also have a

2099
01:25:12,770 --> 01:25:10,920
question do you think they enjoy scaring

2100
01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:12,780
you that they kind of feed off of it in

2101
01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:16,800
a way yes yeah it's kind of like

2102
01:25:21,290 --> 01:25:19,440
um hey let's honey let's go on a date

2103
01:25:24,290 --> 01:25:21,300
and let's go scare you know these two

2104
01:25:30,110 --> 01:25:26,570
yes I think they enjoy

2105
01:25:32,689 --> 01:25:30,120
it um and now we've added a different

2106
01:25:34,790 --> 01:25:32,699
Dynamic now that um we're not afraid of

2107
01:25:36,550 --> 01:25:34,800
it as we used to be because I mean

2108
01:25:38,810 --> 01:25:36,560
literally I wouldn't go outside at night

2109
01:25:41,090 --> 01:25:38,820
my son was like don't go outside without

2110
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:41,100
a gun but quite honestly I don't think

2111
01:25:44,209 --> 01:25:42,480
that would help me because these things

2112
01:25:45,890 --> 01:25:44,219
are so fast they'd be on me before I

2113
01:25:48,050 --> 01:25:45,900
could even pull it out you know what I

2114
01:25:49,970 --> 01:25:48,060
mean but yes I definitely they have a

2115
01:25:51,470 --> 01:25:49,980
sense of humor

2116
01:25:52,729 --> 01:25:51,480
um I know we're running up on time but

2117
01:25:54,950 --> 01:25:52,739
you want me to tell you that that's all

2118
01:25:57,110 --> 01:25:54,960
right go ahead Halloween story yeah I

2119
01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:57,120
want to hear that so Greg was out of

2120
01:26:00,830 --> 01:25:58,560
town and I didn't want to be home alone

2121
01:26:02,570 --> 01:26:00,840
on Halloween so I decided of all things

2122
01:26:04,270 --> 01:26:02,580
I was going to have a dog man watch

2123
01:26:08,030 --> 01:26:04,280
party right

2124
01:26:09,470 --> 01:26:08,040
so I did have I did have a neighbor

2125
01:26:10,189 --> 01:26:09,480
um that's

2126
01:26:12,350 --> 01:26:10,199
um

2127
01:26:14,750 --> 01:26:12,360
that had seen some things when he was

2128
01:26:17,090 --> 01:26:14,760
younger and so I talked to him he came

2129
01:26:18,830 --> 01:26:17,100
with his wife

2130
01:26:20,810 --> 01:26:18,840
um and

2131
01:26:23,090 --> 01:26:20,820
um his son and his son brought a couple

2132
01:26:24,830 --> 01:26:23,100
friends from high school

2133
01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:24,840
um that the lady that I said that her

2134
01:26:29,689 --> 01:26:27,120
kids saw the werewolf you know they came

2135
01:26:31,910 --> 01:26:29,699
so we we basically had all kinds of food

2136
01:26:33,649 --> 01:26:31,920
we had a bonfire going outside I had my

2137
01:26:35,750 --> 01:26:33,659
laptop up with the pictures and

2138
01:26:37,430 --> 01:26:35,760
everything the kids loved telling

2139
01:26:39,050 --> 01:26:37,440
everybody around the campfire their

2140
01:26:41,209 --> 01:26:39,060
little ghost story about seeing the

2141
01:26:43,790 --> 01:26:41,219
werewolf at our house and stuff so it

2142
01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:43,800
kind of had a fun little twang to it the

2143
01:26:47,570 --> 01:26:45,120
gentleman that she's talking about

2144
01:26:49,790 --> 01:26:47,580
actually grew up

2145
01:26:52,729 --> 01:26:49,800
right across the street from where our

2146
01:26:55,189 --> 01:26:52,739
house is so and his mother lives there

2147
01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:55,199
now but like literally like

2148
01:27:00,470 --> 01:26:57,840
so he he had seen some stuff and yeah

2149
01:27:02,990 --> 01:27:00,480
which was kind of freaky but sorry I

2150
01:27:05,330 --> 01:27:03,000
didn't know no no no no yeah he

2151
01:27:06,189 --> 01:27:05,340
literally grew up like directly across

2152
01:27:09,410 --> 01:27:06,199
the street

2153
01:27:11,510 --> 01:27:09,420
he's had he's encounters before yeah

2154
01:27:14,209 --> 01:27:11,520
which means which leads us to believe

2155
01:27:16,550 --> 01:27:14,219
that other people

2156
01:27:18,590 --> 01:27:16,560
a couple houses in the area that every

2157
01:27:20,270 --> 01:27:18,600
year they come up vacant and it's for

2158
01:27:24,709 --> 01:27:20,280
sale and I was like oh they met the dog

2159
01:27:27,590 --> 01:27:24,719
man and they just yeah yeah so

2160
01:27:29,270 --> 01:27:27,600
um so somebody brought up the idea of oh

2161
01:27:30,770 --> 01:27:29,280
let's go on a dog man walk and I was

2162
01:27:31,970 --> 01:27:30,780
like no that's not a good idea let's

2163
01:27:33,830 --> 01:27:31,980
just stay around the fire and then

2164
01:27:37,010 --> 01:27:33,840
everybody wanted to go on the walk so

2165
01:27:38,810 --> 01:27:37,020
you know we had the story so I I had a

2166
01:27:41,090 --> 01:27:38,820
flashlight and of course I I was

2167
01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:41,100
carrying and everything so we kind of

2168
01:27:43,970 --> 01:27:42,480
took them around the parts of the yard

2169
01:27:45,709 --> 01:27:43,980
and stuff like that we went in the

2170
01:27:48,169 --> 01:27:45,719
neighbor's yard

2171
01:27:50,270 --> 01:27:48,179
um and it was funny because we came

2172
01:27:53,030 --> 01:27:50,280
around the antique barn and there were

2173
01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:53,040
eyes in the in a tree and everybody did

2174
01:27:58,490 --> 01:27:56,880
a collab Collective you know and then I

2175
01:28:00,229 --> 01:27:58,500
was like okay guys you know it's a

2176
01:28:01,550 --> 01:28:00,239
raccoon just chill out it's okay and

2177
01:28:04,250 --> 01:28:01,560
everybody's like well let's go back

2178
01:28:06,050 --> 01:28:04,260
let's go back so we went back so we were

2179
01:28:08,030 --> 01:28:06,060
kind of around the campfire in the in

2180
01:28:10,910 --> 01:28:08,040
the the teenagers one of the teenage

2181
01:28:13,310 --> 01:28:10,920
boys had driven and he wanted he decided

2182
01:28:15,410 --> 01:28:13,320
it's like midnight I'm gonna go home so

2183
01:28:17,330 --> 01:28:15,420
then I hear this come motion going on

2184
01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:17,340
and and he's like who took them what's

2185
01:28:21,290 --> 01:28:19,920
going on so I'm I walk over to the

2186
01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:21,300
driveway where they're at and I was like

2187
01:28:24,350 --> 01:28:22,800
hey guys you know I got neighbors here

2188
01:28:25,250 --> 01:28:24,360
let's kind of keep it down what's going

2189
01:28:27,530 --> 01:28:25,260
on

2190
01:28:31,010 --> 01:28:27,540
and the kid tells me that he lost his

2191
01:28:32,450 --> 01:28:31,020
keys and he can't go home so I said okay

2192
01:28:34,430 --> 01:28:32,460
you know what do they look like let's

2193
01:28:36,050 --> 01:28:34,440
kind of look around he says well you

2194
01:28:37,970 --> 01:28:36,060
know it's on a red lanyard and I said

2195
01:28:40,370 --> 01:28:37,980
well that that'll be pretty easy to find

2196
01:28:42,770 --> 01:28:40,380
so you know everybody started looking

2197
01:28:44,570 --> 01:28:42,780
for his keys and we went in the house we

2198
01:28:47,570 --> 01:28:44,580
went we were scouring the yards and

2199
01:28:49,250 --> 01:28:47,580
everything and then he decided Well you

2200
01:28:50,090 --> 01:28:49,260
know he asked me if I just leave my car

2201
01:28:52,370 --> 01:28:50,100
here

2202
01:28:53,870 --> 01:28:52,380
you know can I

2203
01:28:55,310 --> 01:28:53,880
um just come and get it tomorrow and

2204
01:28:57,770 --> 01:28:55,320
these guys will give me a ride home and

2205
01:29:00,530 --> 01:28:57,780
I I was like yeah well then probably

2206
01:29:02,330 --> 01:29:00,540
about maybe about five ten minutes later

2207
01:29:05,689 --> 01:29:02,340
um I was back at the campfire roasting

2208
01:29:07,370 --> 01:29:05,699
some s'mores and and uh I heard some

2209
01:29:08,990 --> 01:29:07,380
commotion towards the back of the

2210
01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:09,000
property and it was the kids again and

2211
01:29:11,930 --> 01:29:10,320
they were getting pretty loud so I

2212
01:29:13,910 --> 01:29:11,940
walked over and I was like hey guys you

2213
01:29:15,890 --> 01:29:13,920
know we talked about this now and there

2214
01:29:18,770 --> 01:29:15,900
was no alcohol at this party so it

2215
01:29:19,729 --> 01:29:18,780
wasn't that and one of the girls said to

2216
01:29:22,370 --> 01:29:19,739
me

2217
01:29:24,830 --> 01:29:22,380
um he found his keys and I was like well

2218
01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:24,840
great that's cool and she goes no he

2219
01:29:29,810 --> 01:29:26,639
found his keys

2220
01:29:32,870 --> 01:29:29,820
and I went okay and then all of them at

2221
01:29:34,370 --> 01:29:32,880
once pointed up into the branches of

2222
01:29:37,010 --> 01:29:34,380
this small tree

2223
01:29:38,209 --> 01:29:37,020
and they were up in the tree about eight

2224
01:29:40,790 --> 01:29:38,219
feet high

2225
01:29:42,530 --> 01:29:40,800
and and when I say they were up in the

2226
01:29:44,330 --> 01:29:42,540
tree about eight feet high I don't mean

2227
01:29:46,129 --> 01:29:44,340
they were just thrown into a tree like

2228
01:29:51,110 --> 01:29:46,139
somebody was messing with him right

2229
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:51,120
these the lanyard was totally wrapped

2230
01:29:57,290 --> 01:29:54,239
around the branch every inch of that

2231
01:29:59,330 --> 01:29:57,300
lanyard was wrapped around that branch

2232
01:30:02,330 --> 01:29:59,340
and we were all kind of looking and

2233
01:30:04,250 --> 01:30:02,340
going well how did that happen right

2234
01:30:06,169 --> 01:30:04,260
because just throwing something in there

2235
01:30:08,149 --> 01:30:06,179
there was enough brush and stuff that it

2236
01:30:09,649 --> 01:30:08,159
wouldn't have there's no way there's no

2237
01:30:12,470 --> 01:30:09,659
logical way that it would have something

2238
01:30:14,330 --> 01:30:12,480
placed and wrapped those some something

2239
01:30:17,390 --> 01:30:14,340
did it I am you know

2240
01:30:19,550 --> 01:30:17,400
and so I was like okay well uh let's go

2241
01:30:21,410 --> 01:30:19,560
and get the ladder and and they're all

2242
01:30:23,390 --> 01:30:21,420
like looking at me and I said so I went

2243
01:30:25,729 --> 01:30:23,400
we we all went together we got the

2244
01:30:28,250 --> 01:30:25,739
ladder we I put the ladder up against

2245
01:30:30,229 --> 01:30:28,260
the tree and the tree was only at that

2246
01:30:32,689 --> 01:30:30,239
time was only about three inches you

2247
01:30:35,330 --> 01:30:32,699
know in diameter it was very small tree

2248
01:30:36,770 --> 01:30:35,340
but it was very tall

2249
01:30:38,450 --> 01:30:36,780
um so it's not like somebody could have

2250
01:30:40,550 --> 01:30:38,460
you know climbed up it because it would

2251
01:30:43,189 --> 01:30:40,560
have broken it a full-size you know

2252
01:30:44,930 --> 01:30:43,199
adult would have broken the tree

2253
01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:44,940
um so I put the

2254
01:30:49,790 --> 01:30:47,520
um the ladder against the little tree

2255
01:30:54,050 --> 01:30:49,800
and I I said Okay who wants to go and

2256
01:30:59,390 --> 01:30:56,510
I was like okay

2257
01:31:01,610 --> 01:30:59,400
I brought these kids and and you know I

2258
01:31:04,070 --> 01:31:01,620
should go up and get it and the whole

2259
01:31:06,169 --> 01:31:04,080
time I swear I was waiting for something

2260
01:31:08,930 --> 01:31:06,179
to grab me or something to push me off

2261
01:31:10,729 --> 01:31:08,940
that ladder or and I gave that kid the

2262
01:31:13,070 --> 01:31:10,739
keys back and he got out of there so

2263
01:31:14,810 --> 01:31:13,080
fast and the next day I asked our name

2264
01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:14,820
you know our the gentleman who used to

2265
01:31:18,709 --> 01:31:16,800
live next to us our neighbor

2266
01:31:20,750 --> 01:31:18,719
um you know how is he doing he goes he

2267
01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:20,760
told everybody I don't talk about it I

2268
01:31:25,070 --> 01:31:22,560
don't want to hear it he thinks that it

2269
01:31:27,110 --> 01:31:25,080
took it out of his pocket you know when

2270
01:31:28,970 --> 01:31:27,120
we were going by that he he said it was

2271
01:31:31,310 --> 01:31:28,980
in my pocket I think it took it right

2272
01:31:33,290 --> 01:31:31,320
out of my pocket so here we thought we

2273
01:31:35,390 --> 01:31:33,300
were being cool by going on this dog man

2274
01:31:37,870 --> 01:31:35,400
and then trick or treat he played a

2275
01:31:41,330 --> 01:31:37,880
trick wow

2276
01:31:43,970 --> 01:31:41,340
that's weird yeah so I have a question

2277
01:31:45,470 --> 01:31:43,980
for you guys why did you want to come

2278
01:31:47,270 --> 01:31:45,480
forward now

2279
01:31:49,790 --> 01:31:47,280
I mean I think it's important as an

2280
01:31:52,430 --> 01:31:49,800
experiencer myself that I never talk to

2281
01:31:53,930 --> 01:31:52,440
anyone about it and then you know I I

2282
01:31:56,510 --> 01:31:53,940
think it's important to start talking

2283
01:31:59,209 --> 01:31:56,520
about it you know any experience you've

2284
01:32:01,970 --> 01:31:59,219
had so why why did you guys feel it's

2285
01:32:04,010 --> 01:32:01,980
important for you to come forward now I

2286
01:32:06,950 --> 01:32:04,020
I think mostly because we're in a

2287
01:32:08,450 --> 01:32:06,960
different phase in this

2288
01:32:10,790 --> 01:32:08,460
um you know you go we went through

2289
01:32:13,070 --> 01:32:10,800
phases and the the first phase was what

2290
01:32:15,050 --> 01:32:13,080
the heck you know and and then you go

2291
01:32:17,270 --> 01:32:15,060
through an investigative phase

2292
01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:17,280
and

2293
01:32:21,890 --> 01:32:19,920
um then you go to I mean literally when

2294
01:32:23,330 --> 01:32:21,900
covid was going on and everything I was

2295
01:32:24,890 --> 01:32:23,340
like you know what dog man you just got

2296
01:32:26,629 --> 01:32:24,900
to take a back seat right here you know

2297
01:32:29,570 --> 01:32:26,639
you go through I'm going through my life

2298
01:32:31,610 --> 01:32:29,580
and sometimes sometimes I mean there

2299
01:32:33,830 --> 01:32:31,620
were times when they didn't come come by

2300
01:32:36,530 --> 01:32:33,840
or we didn't realize they were here for

2301
01:32:38,990 --> 01:32:36,540
a couple years yeah I don't think we

2302
01:32:41,570 --> 01:32:39,000
picked up on the signals and the stuff

2303
01:32:44,510 --> 01:32:41,580
they were doing or sometimes we just get

2304
01:32:46,129 --> 01:32:44,520
so used to things going on that we don't

2305
01:32:48,410 --> 01:32:46,139
hear it or we don't see it you know what

2306
01:32:53,209 --> 01:32:48,420
I mean it's just an everyday thing

2307
01:32:54,290 --> 01:32:53,219
so I think the main thing was you know I

2308
01:32:57,050 --> 01:32:54,300
finally

2309
01:32:59,450 --> 01:32:57,060
when I reached out to lawn and he got

2310
01:33:02,030 --> 01:32:59,460
back to me like right away

2311
01:33:05,570 --> 01:33:02,040
um when I started talking to Jennifer

2312
01:33:07,490 --> 01:33:05,580
when I started talking to Rich Dave Todd

2313
01:33:08,990 --> 01:33:07,500
and oh but Cain Michaels I don't know if

2314
01:33:12,169 --> 01:33:09,000
you've ever heard of him he's a big

2315
01:33:14,510 --> 01:33:12,179
Bigfoot and you know investigator

2316
01:33:17,030 --> 01:33:14,520
um he's a part of the team as well

2317
01:33:20,510 --> 01:33:17,040
um when I started realizing that we

2318
01:33:23,270 --> 01:33:20,520
weren't alone and we were not crazy

2319
01:33:24,709 --> 01:33:23,280
um was when I said okay you know these

2320
01:33:26,870 --> 01:33:24,719
things are out there because I have no

2321
01:33:29,629 --> 01:33:26,880
doubt whatsoever I I know what we have

2322
01:33:33,530 --> 01:33:29,639
here I don't care what anybody else says

2323
01:33:36,290 --> 01:33:33,540
um and but and people need to be

2324
01:33:38,030 --> 01:33:36,300
um aware of it right people people

2325
01:33:39,830 --> 01:33:38,040
basically need to be aware of it they

2326
01:33:41,450 --> 01:33:39,840
need to be careful but you know people

2327
01:33:44,450 --> 01:33:41,460
also need to know that I don't think

2328
01:33:46,729 --> 01:33:44,460
these creatures are there to hurt us

2329
01:33:49,750 --> 01:33:46,739
um unless we do something to them first

2330
01:33:52,129 --> 01:33:49,760
that's kind of how I

2331
01:33:54,169 --> 01:33:52,139
can tell somebody who's going through

2332
01:33:55,970 --> 01:33:54,179
the same exact thing that you are who

2333
01:33:57,229 --> 01:33:55,980
thinks they're crazy and they don't want

2334
01:33:58,910 --> 01:33:57,239
to come forward what would you tell them

2335
01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:58,920
or want them to know if they're watching

2336
01:34:02,390 --> 01:34:00,719
you know if they stumbled upon this and

2337
01:34:04,370 --> 01:34:02,400
they see this and they're like I'm

2338
01:34:06,110 --> 01:34:04,380
experienced this you know experiencing

2339
01:34:08,090 --> 01:34:06,120
the same thing but I feel like I'm

2340
01:34:09,830 --> 01:34:08,100
losing my mind

2341
01:34:13,490 --> 01:34:09,840
number one you're not losing your mind

2342
01:34:16,189 --> 01:34:13,500
you know your mind from what what our

2343
01:34:17,810 --> 01:34:16,199
experience has been your mind tries to

2344
01:34:18,890 --> 01:34:17,820
talk you out of what you've seen what

2345
01:34:21,169 --> 01:34:18,900
you've seen

2346
01:34:23,149 --> 01:34:21,179
no it couldn't be that you know and I

2347
01:34:25,250 --> 01:34:23,159
think that's the worst part of it is

2348
01:34:27,050 --> 01:34:25,260
that we are so busy trying to

2349
01:34:29,090 --> 01:34:27,060
rationalize what we see or what we

2350
01:34:32,450 --> 01:34:29,100
experience that we don't get to

2351
01:34:33,590 --> 01:34:32,460
experience it fully and that's a shame I

2352
01:34:35,870 --> 01:34:33,600
think

2353
01:34:38,629 --> 01:34:35,880
um but then we've also got the fight or

2354
01:34:40,010 --> 01:34:38,639
flight Instinct that tells us that you

2355
01:34:41,629 --> 01:34:40,020
know I've been at the top of the food

2356
01:34:44,030 --> 01:34:41,639
chain this long I don't want to be at

2357
01:34:45,590 --> 01:34:44,040
the bottom so we back away from any

2358
01:34:47,810 --> 01:34:45,600
experiences and then there's the

2359
01:34:50,330 --> 01:34:47,820
embarrassment you know people that want

2360
01:34:52,310 --> 01:34:50,340
to shame you I mean social media

2361
01:34:54,169 --> 01:34:52,320
is just horrendous with those kinds of

2362
01:34:56,510 --> 01:34:54,179
things so you have all those things

2363
01:34:57,590 --> 01:34:56,520
against you and then also who can you

2364
01:34:58,970 --> 01:34:57,600
trust

2365
01:35:04,850 --> 01:34:58,980
you know

2366
01:35:06,709 --> 01:35:04,860
here reach out to lawn Lon can get you

2367
01:35:08,510 --> 01:35:06,719
and I would love to talk to you I would

2368
01:35:11,330 --> 01:35:08,520
listen to anybody who has anything to

2369
01:35:13,250 --> 01:35:11,340
say I believe my husband would too

2370
01:35:15,649 --> 01:35:13,260
um because we have experienced it for 12

2371
01:35:17,330 --> 01:35:15,659
years we've experienced the fear we've

2372
01:35:18,830 --> 01:35:17,340
experienced the Panic we've experienced

2373
01:35:48,470 --> 01:35:18,840
a

2374
01:35:51,110 --> 01:35:48,480
well

2375
01:35:53,870 --> 01:35:51,120
so uh if anything else comes up you know

2376
01:35:56,750 --> 01:35:53,880
how to contact me and I'm quite sure

2377
01:36:01,010 --> 01:35:56,760
that our for our listeners appreciate

2378
01:36:03,410 --> 01:36:01,020
you do that you have come forward and uh

2379
01:36:04,910 --> 01:36:03,420
you know as the time goes on and things

2380
01:36:07,430 --> 01:36:04,920
happen maybe we'll have you come back

2381
01:36:08,930 --> 01:36:07,440
and give us an update Well we'd love to

2382
01:36:11,450 --> 01:36:08,940
do that because we're going to start the

2383
01:36:14,209 --> 01:36:11,460
investigation part of it so I'll

2384
01:36:16,010 --> 01:36:14,219
definitely keep you in the loop okay all

2385
01:36:18,110 --> 01:36:16,020
right well you have a good evening good

2386
01:36:20,689 --> 01:36:18,120
weekend and I'll talk to you to you soon

2387
01:36:24,850 --> 01:36:20,699
you take care all right good night good

2388
01:36:28,910 --> 01:36:27,410
now if you have a sighting or a counter

2389
01:36:30,709 --> 01:36:28,920
report that you would like to be

2390
01:36:34,010 --> 01:36:30,719
considered for the personal report show

2391
01:36:36,770 --> 01:36:34,020
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2392
01:36:39,770 --> 01:36:36,780
lawn sticker fans of monster.com

2393
01:36:42,530 --> 01:36:39,780
uh I want to again thank Carrie and Greg

2394
01:36:44,030 --> 01:36:42,540
for joining me this evening and thanks

2395
01:36:45,050 --> 01:36:44,040
to each and all you for watching and

2396
01:36:47,450 --> 01:36:45,060
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2397
01:36:49,490 --> 01:36:47,460
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01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:49,500
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2400
01:36:57,050 --> 01:36:55,860
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2401
01:37:00,530 --> 01:36:57,060
Friday

2402
01:37:03,169 --> 01:37:00,540
psychic and medical intuitive Sue Walker

2403
01:37:05,390 --> 01:37:03,179
will again be joining us now this time

2404
01:37:08,510 --> 01:37:05,400
our discussion is going to center around

2405
01:37:10,189 --> 01:37:08,520
her encounters and work the Bigfoot so

2406
01:37:12,410 --> 01:37:10,199
this should be an interesting show so

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01:37:14,270 --> 01:37:12,420
make sure you join us so until next week

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01:37:24,140 --> 01:37:14,280
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